Comments on: Amazon Outpacing eBay for Lead in the Online Commerce War! http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm Learn How to Build and Market Niche Websites Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:32:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Beau http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17505 Beau Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:20:47 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17505 I find the Alexa graphic to be very illustrative. I think it is interesting that as soon as eBay started talking about QCP in August amazon started receiving more traffic. And, when the QCP program was fully implemented, in September / October the separation become more stark. I went to Alexa's site and ran the chart and they are down 7% for the 7 day period. Comparatively speaking Amazon is definitely starting to breakaway in terms of traffic volume. I think it will be very telling to compare the traffic when the holiday season is over. It looks as if there will be a huge gap in traffic with Amazon being the winner. eBay RIP<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17505','Beau'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17505','Beau','I find the Alexa graphic to be very illustrative. I think it is interesting that as soon as eBay started talking about QCP in August amazon started receiving more traffic. And, when the QCP program was fully implemented, in September \/ October the separation become more stark.\r\n\r\nI went to Alexa\'s site and ran the chart and they are down 7% for the 7 day period. Comparatively speaking Amazon is definitely starting to breakaway in terms of traffic volume.\r\n\r\nI think it will be very telling to compare the traffic when the holiday season is over. It looks as if there will be a huge gap in traffic with Amazon being the winner.\r\n\r\neBay RIP'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I find the Alexa graphic to be very illustrative. I think it is interesting that as soon as eBay started talking about QCP in August amazon started receiving more traffic. And, when the QCP program was fully implemented, in September / October the separation become more stark.

I went to Alexa’s site and ran the chart and they are down 7% for the 7 day period. Comparatively speaking Amazon is definitely starting to breakaway in terms of traffic volume.

I think it will be very telling to compare the traffic when the holiday season is over. It looks as if there will be a huge gap in traffic with Amazon being the winner.

eBay RIP

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]]> By: Rochelle http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17340 Rochelle Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:11:23 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17340 Very well said, Mark. Over the past month, I have put up between 30 and 40 new sites. Of those, only one is sending traffic to eBay, and that's ONLY because it is the only place for people to purchase what is being sold (it is for items that stopped being made decades ago but are still popular). ALL the rest of my sites are sending visitors to Amazon. I've had several winning bids from my one new eBay site (the one mentioned above), and thanks to the new EPN system, all I earned was $0.07 each for the clicks. That's it. Nothing else. As soon as I find an alternative site for sending visitors to for this product, I am out of eBay. As already stated, Amazon has a large basket of tools they provide for their affiliates, and they even encourage requests. I really like their tiered program because I know where I stand in my earnings. Clear, precise, easy to understand. Rochelle<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17340','Rochelle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17340','Rochelle','Very well said, Mark.\r\n\r\nOver the past month, I have put up between 30 and 40 new sites. Of those, only one is sending traffic to eBay, and that\'s ONLY because it is the only place for people to purchase what is being sold (it is for items that stopped being made decades ago but are still popular). ALL the rest of my sites are sending visitors to Amazon.\r\n\r\nI\'ve had several winning bids from my one new eBay site (the one mentioned above), and thanks to the new EPN system, all I earned was $0.07 each for the clicks. That\'s it. Nothing else. As soon as I find an alternative site for sending visitors to for this product, I am out of eBay.\r\n\r\nAs already stated, Amazon has a large basket of tools they provide for their affiliates, and they even encourage requests. I really like their tiered program because I know where I stand in my earnings. Clear, precise, easy to understand.\r\n\r\nRochelle'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Very well said, Mark.

Over the past month, I have put up between 30 and 40 new sites. Of those, only one is sending traffic to eBay, and that’s ONLY because it is the only place for people to purchase what is being sold (it is for items that stopped being made decades ago but are still popular). ALL the rest of my sites are sending visitors to Amazon.

I’ve had several winning bids from my one new eBay site (the one mentioned above), and thanks to the new EPN system, all I earned was $0.07 each for the clicks. That’s it. Nothing else. As soon as I find an alternative site for sending visitors to for this product, I am out of eBay.

As already stated, Amazon has a large basket of tools they provide for their affiliates, and they even encourage requests. I really like their tiered program because I know where I stand in my earnings. Clear, precise, easy to understand.

Rochelle

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]]> By: Biz Fancy http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17339 Biz Fancy Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:04:28 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17339 It's about time eBay felt the pain after treating their sellers and affiliates like trash for the past several years. I agree with Jay, that Amazon seems to want to HELP their affiliates. Amazon is doing something right, that's for sure.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17339','Biz Fancy'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17339','Biz Fancy','It\'s about time eBay felt the pain after treating their sellers and affiliates like trash for the past several years. I agree with Jay, that Amazon seems to want to HELP their affiliates. Amazon is doing something right, that\'s for sure.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> It’s about time eBay felt the pain after treating their sellers and affiliates like trash for the past several years. I agree with Jay, that Amazon seems to want to HELP their affiliates. Amazon is doing something right, that’s for sure.
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]]> By: Shazz http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17338 Shazz Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:54:14 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17338 This is the new EPN Quality Click Pricing fault.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17338','Shazz'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17338','Shazz','This is the new EPN Quality Click Pricing fault.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This is the new EPN Quality Click Pricing fault.
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]]> By: Greg http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17337 Greg Thu, 03 Dec 2009 00:39:23 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17337 I wonder if a reduction of traffic sent to eBAY by the publishers that EPN has alienated with the new payment structure has anything to do with contributing to their faltering traffic numbers. I for one am sending less traffic to them, and will continue to work on converting more sites to Amazon and others, away from EPN. I'm sure the traffic I send is like a drop of water to the ocean, but it seems a mass exodus is occurring from the posts I've read everywhere.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17337','Greg'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17337','Greg','I wonder if a reduction of traffic sent to eBAY by the publishers that EPN has alienated with the new payment structure has anything to do with contributing to their faltering traffic numbers.\r\nI for one am sending less traffic to them, and will continue to work on converting more sites to Amazon and others, away from EPN. I\'m sure the traffic I send is like a drop of water to the ocean, but it seems a mass exodus is occurring from the posts I\'ve read everywhere.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I wonder if a reduction of traffic sent to eBAY by the publishers that EPN has alienated with the new payment structure has anything to do with contributing to their faltering traffic numbers.
I for one am sending less traffic to them, and will continue to work on converting more sites to Amazon and others, away from EPN. I’m sure the traffic I send is like a drop of water to the ocean, but it seems a mass exodus is occurring from the posts I’ve read everywhere.
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]]> By: Affiliate Schoolbook http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17336 Affiliate Schoolbook Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:27:25 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17336 Ebay is now nothing more to me than some long tail keyword content, drawing visitors to Adsense laden pages who pay better and you wouldn't have thought that even a year ago. @ Jay ,Adversarial is a good way to describe their relational attitude to their affiliates or possibly contemptuous, and perhaps now that will bite them in the ass (as you yankees like to say!)Just love that expression:)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17336','Affiliate Schoolbook'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17336','Affiliate Schoolbook','Ebay is now nothing more to me than some long tail keyword content, drawing visitors to Adsense laden pages who pay better and you wouldn\'t have thought that even a year ago.\r\n@ Jay ,Adversarial is a good way to describe their relational attitude to their affiliates or possibly contemptuous, and perhaps now that will bite them in the ass (as you yankees like to say!)Just love that expression:)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Ebay is now nothing more to me than some long tail keyword content, drawing visitors to Adsense laden pages who pay better and you wouldn’t have thought that even a year ago.
@ Jay ,Adversarial is a good way to describe their relational attitude to their affiliates or possibly contemptuous, and perhaps now that will bite them in the ass (as you yankees like to say!)Just love that expression:)
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]]> By: Bill G http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17335 Bill G Wed, 02 Dec 2009 21:39:53 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17335 Ebay hasn't even made it on Consumer Reports list of e commerce sites in 2 years.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17335','Bill G'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17335','Bill G','Ebay hasn\'t even made it on Consumer Reports list of e commerce sites in 2 years.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Ebay hasn’t even made it on Consumer Reports list of e commerce sites in 2 years.
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]]> By: Mark http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17334 Mark Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:22:55 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17334 @ Geo IP - Not sure what you mean by Google I don't really think they care either. When eBay refused to allow Google Checkout into their payment system since it would take money out of their Paypal pockets, the war actually began them. Just lookup "Project Unity eBay"... they pissed in Googles' corn flakes long ago! As far as being penalized... again, lookup Google bans BMW - they don't play favorites. If you get overly aggressive with your site, they will drop anyone! Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17334','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17334','Mark','@ Geo IP - \r\n\r\nNot sure what you mean by Google I don\'t really think they care either.\r\n\r\nWhen eBay refused to allow Google Checkout into their payment system since it would take money out of their Paypal pockets, the war actually began them. Just lookup \"Project Unity eBay\"... they pissed in Googles\' corn flakes long ago!\r\n\r\nAs far as being penalized... again, lookup Google bans BMW - they don\'t play favorites. If you get overly aggressive with your site, they will drop anyone!\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Geo IP –

Not sure what you mean by Google I don’t really think they care either.

When eBay refused to allow Google Checkout into their payment system since it would take money out of their Paypal pockets, the war actually began them. Just lookup “Project Unity eBay”… they pissed in Googles’ corn flakes long ago!

As far as being penalized… again, lookup Google bans BMW – they don’t play favorites. If you get overly aggressive with your site, they will drop anyone!

Mark

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]]> By: Mark http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17333 Mark Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:16:29 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17333 @ Anand - On the Copmpete comparison page, look below the graph at who refers the most traffic to the sites. For Amazon, its Google... for eBay, its Yahoo. I know on my own sites, Google accounts for more than 70% of the search referrals... so its apparent that they may actually BE penalized if Yahoo is their most popular search traffic referrer. As far as Google not slapping around a big player - just google "google versus BMW". Google deindexed BMW a few years ago for aggressive SEO. @ Terry - Glad to bring a smile! I don't wish failure on eBay at all, but they really need to pay attention to the pulse or they WILL be in bigger trouble. @ Suzanne - Glad to see you stop by! I manage several ecommerce sites for local business... everyone has been pulling off of eBay for awhile now, including myself, who ran a +1million/tr business on eBay for several years. The fees and being forced to use paypal is just too much to make it worthwhile selling anymore. @ SadolEPN User & EX-Ebayer - you are one of thousands doing the same thing. One voice is quiet, but thousands might be heard! @ Jay - Great comment and right on track with the way too many people toward eBay right now. They got TOO big for their own good and became an overbloated, top-heavy business who has taken the completely wrong approach to building a sustainable business model. You hit the nail on the head with eBay not grasping both sides of the transaction as equals. @ Dave - I hope it works out for you and the Amazon program. NC sucks for the tax laes for sure, but I think its just a matter of time before a Country-Wide tax law gets passed. They want their nickels... @ Bill - I agree that eBay does have some things you cannot find elsewhere, but as they continue to abandon their base... the moms and pops who put all the "IT" products on their virtual shelves, they are going to be nothing more than Amazon, but with a poor attitude... which makes them lose the ecommerce war. Thanks for all the comments... Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17333','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17333','Mark','@ Anand - \r\n\r\nOn the Copmpete comparison page, look below the graph at who refers the most traffic to the sites. For Amazon, its Google... for eBay, its Yahoo. I know on my own sites, Google accounts for more than 70% of the search referrals... so its apparent that they may actually BE penalized if Yahoo is their most popular search traffic referrer.\r\n\r\nAs far as Google not slapping around a big player - just google \"google versus BMW\". Google deindexed BMW a few years ago for aggressive SEO.\r\n\r\n@ Terry - Glad to bring a smile! I don\'t wish failure on eBay at all, but they really need to pay attention to the pulse or they WILL be in bigger trouble.\r\n\r\n@ Suzanne - Glad to see you stop by! I manage several ecommerce sites for local business... everyone has been pulling off of eBay for awhile now, including myself, who ran a +1million\/tr business on eBay for several years. The fees and being forced to use paypal is just too much to make it worthwhile selling anymore.\r\n\r\n@ SadolEPN User & EX-Ebayer - you are one of thousands doing the same thing. One voice is quiet, but thousands might be heard!\r\n\r\n@ Jay - Great comment and right on track with the way too many people toward eBay right now. They got TOO big for their own good and became an overbloated, top-heavy business who has taken the completely wrong approach to building a sustainable business model.\r\n\r\nYou hit the nail on the head with eBay not grasping both sides of the transaction as equals. \r\n\r\n@ Dave - I hope it works out for you and the Amazon program. NC sucks for the tax laes for sure, but I think its just a matter of time before a Country-Wide tax law gets passed. They want their nickels...\r\n\r\n@ Bill - I agree that eBay does have some things you cannot find elsewhere, but as they continue to abandon their base... the moms and pops who put all the \"IT\" products on their virtual shelves, they are going to be nothing more than Amazon, but with a poor attitude... which makes them lose the ecommerce war.\r\n\r\nThanks for all the comments...\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Anand –

On the Copmpete comparison page, look below the graph at who refers the most traffic to the sites. For Amazon, its Google… for eBay, its Yahoo. I know on my own sites, Google accounts for more than 70% of the search referrals… so its apparent that they may actually BE penalized if Yahoo is their most popular search traffic referrer.

As far as Google not slapping around a big player – just google “google versus BMW”. Google deindexed BMW a few years ago for aggressive SEO.

@ Terry – Glad to bring a smile! I don’t wish failure on eBay at all, but they really need to pay attention to the pulse or they WILL be in bigger trouble.

@ Suzanne – Glad to see you stop by! I manage several ecommerce sites for local business… everyone has been pulling off of eBay for awhile now, including myself, who ran a +1million/tr business on eBay for several years. The fees and being forced to use paypal is just too much to make it worthwhile selling anymore.

@ SadolEPN User & EX-Ebayer – you are one of thousands doing the same thing. One voice is quiet, but thousands might be heard!

@ Jay – Great comment and right on track with the way too many people toward eBay right now. They got TOO big for their own good and became an overbloated, top-heavy business who has taken the completely wrong approach to building a sustainable business model.

You hit the nail on the head with eBay not grasping both sides of the transaction as equals.

@ Dave – I hope it works out for you and the Amazon program. NC sucks for the tax laes for sure, but I think its just a matter of time before a Country-Wide tax law gets passed. They want their nickels…

@ Bill – I agree that eBay does have some things you cannot find elsewhere, but as they continue to abandon their base… the moms and pops who put all the “IT” products on their virtual shelves, they are going to be nothing more than Amazon, but with a poor attitude… which makes them lose the ecommerce war.

Thanks for all the comments…

Mark

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]]> By: Geo IP Script http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/amazon-outpacing-ebay-for-lead-in-the-online-commerce-war.htm#comment-17332 Geo IP Script Wed, 02 Dec 2009 18:10:19 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1111#comment-17332 What !!! You think Google will care about loosing the income it gets from eBay ?? Get real ... its always been one rule for the big boys and a big stick waving over the small guys...its called Power Crazy ..it gives their overpaid office boys a feeling of superiority. Both eBay & Google Adsense are renowned for closing accounts on a whim - keeping payments due to affiliates / partners ..and then never answering emails as to why the accounts were closed in the first place. Will Google ever penalize eBay .. no way ....eBay has a legal team that will fight back ..and bullies dont like that.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17332','Geo IP Script'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17332','Geo IP Script','What !!! \r\n\r\nYou think Google will care about loosing the income it gets from eBay ??\r\n\r\nGet real ... its always been one rule for the big boys and a big stick waving over the small guys...its called Power Crazy ..it gives their overpaid office boys a feeling of superiority.\r\n\r\nBoth eBay & Google Adsense are renowned for closing accounts on a whim - keeping payments due to affiliates \/ partners ..and then never answering emails as to why the accounts were closed in the first place.\r\n\r\nWill Google ever penalize eBay .. no way ....eBay has a legal team that will fight back ..and bullies dont like that.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> What !!!

You think Google will care about loosing the income it gets from eBay ??

Get real … its always been one rule for the big boys and a big stick waving over the small guys…its called Power Crazy ..it gives their overpaid office boys a feeling of superiority.

Both eBay & Google Adsense are renowned for closing accounts on a whim – keeping payments due to affiliates / partners ..and then never answering emails as to why the accounts were closed in the first place.

Will Google ever penalize eBay .. no way ….eBay has a legal team that will fight back ..and bullies dont like that.

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