Don’t Use Adsense on BANS Sites
13 June 2008
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Adsense and BANS don’t Mix!Â
As you read the other day in my post about a one of my BANS Sites Slapped by Google, I have watched several others very closely. Today, I have found 23 additional sites deindexed. The ONLY common factor between all of these sites are that they made use of an adsense block. Many of them had privacy policies in place, thus eliminating that specific reference as the problem.
23 BANS site with adsense… 23 BANS sites deindexed in the last 24 hours!
At this point, I dont know if it is deeper than just the adsense blocks, or if it was just that a manual review of my own adsense account prompted the actions, but it happened.
I would recommend spending a few hours removing ALL ADSENSE from your BANS sites ASAP.
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I have been doing my part to "Build the Internet" since 1994, when I built my first website! Since then, I have built hundreds of niche websites for myself and many others, focused on design, applications, ecommerce, search optimization and internet marketing.
So have all of your BANS sites with Adsense been blocked? Is this happening to everyone? I am relatively new to this but two of my sites with Adsense were just indexed in the past couple of days.
Were these hosted on the same account? On the same template? Just wondering if there could be any other common traits.
Good luck and thanks for sharing these updates.
Mark:
You are missing one other common denominator of those 23 sites. Not only did they all have AdSense ads on them but they were also all BANS sites pulling rss feeds from eBay!
I have been reading more and more posts all over in affiliate forums about Google de-indexing sites that are using feeds – eBay or otherwise! I am afraid that google has decided that these sites are not up to their standard. I honestly think that it is getting more and more important to keep developing genuinely unique content. Feeds should supplement content, not overwhelm it!
I would love to see these type of sites keep working because I have made a bunch of money over the years from using BANS sites. However, I am much more hesitant to keep allocating so many resources to these until I can get a better feel on what google is doing.
By the way, I have an non-BANS site that has unique content – only add a few pages a month and the traffic stats keep going up month after month!
Jay
Why wouldn’t Google termininate the AdSense account if running AdSense on a BANS store violates the AdSense TOS? I take it, however, that none of your sites without AdSense have been deindexed? Come to think of it, I’ve never heard of sites being also deindexed when publishers have been terminated. Google is an enigma.
Hmm… I run AdSense on WP blogs I’ve appended to my BANS stores, but never on the BANS store itself just on the principal that I don’t want to give visitors a route out of the store that potentially pays less than I would earn if they become successful bidders.
I know what I’ll be doing tonight. Thanks for the heads up.
Mark,
Can you recommend other ad networks that would serve up a variety of text block ads similar to Google’s adsense?
What are the best alternatives; Yahoo, MSN, Adbrite? I’m wondering if any alternative is recommended over the other.
Thanks
Hi Mark,
Sorry to hear about this. Will anyone at Google respond to this besides “read the quality policy”?
I was just about ready to put up an adsense block or two just to fill up some empty real estate on my pages when this happened to you.
Hope it gets straightened out.
Mike
You know, I read so many threads in the BANs forums of experienced people saying they barely used Adsense anymore, PERIOD! Especially on niche sites… I actually removed adsense from my primary site.. and it has continued to do very well..
I actually made my first commission from Amazon! I’m very happy about that…
Unless you have an authority site that gets 150,000 hits a day or 150,000 individual “made for adsense” sites scraping the net… The earning off of adsense alone is not worth the effot in my opinion.
Find a niche, do your research, develop a genuine interest, and kick ass! Put in the hard work and it will pay off… Rinse and Repeat…
This is all a bit disturbing really – maybe your new project will be soon the only way to go.
Did you see that Google’s (alleged) guidelines for their staff doing manual reviews of web sites got leaked earlier this year? Its well worth a read – it goes in to detail about when a page should be labled as spam etc. It mentions eBay and Amazon especially being associated with thin affiliate sites (spam in Google’s eyes). A page with affiliate links and ads on it has to offer something useful to the user – or the big red spam button gets pushed! I’d guess that a lot of BANS sites have content on store pages but unless it actually offers something of value (e.g. a review) – then that page could get labled as spam.
It certainly gives an insight into what’s on big G’s mind!
http://www.seobook.com/full-text-googles-general-guidelines-remote-quality-raters-april-2007
Sorry you had to find this out the hard way mate, thanks for the warning.
It only takes a minute to create a 160×600 block of ads with the ebay editor kit. That is the way forward i think.
Mark
This is horrendous news. It looks more and more like BANS is dying. I have checked my 4 sites that I run with adsense and they are still indexed. What is interesting is that none of these have made any sales in the last 4 weeks.
What I’d like to see is BANS running with a blog (prefereably wordpress) front end which would make content management, linking and SEO much better. I believe there is a Wordpress plugin for ebay feeds so I may have to experiment a bit.
My idea my be similar to your own.
I learned from other BANS members to not put adsense on a site. I had 4 sites with ads that were de-indexed a couple months ago(and still are). I kept the ads on because they still get some traffic from Yahoo and MSN. Since learning that I stopped putting adsense ads on all new BANS sites. All new BANS stores get Wordpress installed on them with links back to my store. I then write 4 or 5 posts scheduled to appear in the future describing a product. Also, I stopped trying to get indexed by G. I know it sounds weird but I’d rather them find me instead of me trying to find them, even if it takes a month. No article submissions, Diggs, etc. I keep doing product reviews on my blog until they find me. After that I split time between article marketing and blog posts.
I don’t get why G is doing this at all. Isn’t that how G makes money with people clicking on ads? And BANS store owners are giving advertisers a place to display laser focused product ads? In regards to the whole eBay affiliate sites and G not liking them I could think of hundreds of other industires that don’t actually sell the product but show you where to go to get it. They might as well de-index eBay because eBay does not sell anything at all. eBay does not write content, the sellers do.
This is terrible. I have never used adsense on my BANS but the .com BANS site that’s suffered the most (sandboxed hard – not delisted) had a blog in a subfolder that had adsense on it. Could that be the cause of the sandboxing? It’s not bringing me much so I’ll remove the adsense in case. How many more things is Google going to hit us with?
Thanks for the heads up. I would have posted sooner, but I was busy removing my adsense :) It doesn’t earn me that much anyway on these sites.
I wonder if the guys on CNBC know about this? G ads is one of the big things they watch to determin were the stock is going. Our contribution to g’s revinue is probably small, but if they deindex every thin affiliate site what will be left. G pushs new users to use adsense. I dont use it much for a different reason. I send users to my sites from digg and stumbled and ads are a sure way of getting banned from them. Itry my hardest to make as much $ as possible from the honeymoon just incase.
Good luck all
Thanks for the heads up Mark
Do we need to cancel our adsense account or just physically remove the ad code?
HL
I think the BEST thing to do… is to start work immediately on making the sites more content rich, to provide relevance to the visitors.
If you plan on using bans eBay listings by themselves, its just a matter of time before G deindexes due to a lack of visitor value.
If you plan on taking the site into the realm of an info based site with bans listings, they will probably be fine.
Mark
I just received this from Google with a warning. I am not sure how/if this can be fixed.
All the URLs in your Sitemap have the same priority.
All the URLs in your Sitemap are set to the same priority (not the default priority). Priority indicates the importance of a particular URL relative to other URLs on your site, and doesn’t impact your site’s performance in search results. If all URLs have the same priority, Google can’t tell which are more important.
Bob G.
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