Comments on: eBay Affiliate Program Doesn’t want your Lame Traffic! http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm Learn How to Build and Market Niche Websites Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:44:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Markhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14708 Mark Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:29:29 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14708 @ Dave -I would never squash comments man... Yours was just held in moderation.I won't argue with you a bit on BANS alone sites being a huge red flag... if you go back and read some of the posts since my own sites starting getting deindexed back in May, you will see that. :-)The key for me however, was to find a way to make them better, so Google DID love them and share their love by sending visitors. Thus... I started converting most of my better performing stores to WordPress and use them not only for BANS, but other aff programs as well.Thanks for stopping in and commenting, and again... you will find many negative BANS posts here, as well as comments.MarkMark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14708','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14708','Mark','@ Dave - \r\n\r\nI would never squash comments man... Yours was just held in moderation.\r\n\r\nI won\'t argue with you a bit on BANS alone sites being a huge red flag... if you go back and read some of the posts since my own sites starting getting deindexed back in May, you will see that. :-)\r\n\r\nThe key for me however, was to find a way to make them better, so Google DID love them and share their love by sending visitors. Thus... I started converting most of my better performing stores to WordPress and use them not only for BANS, but other aff programs as well.\r\n\r\nThanks for stopping in and commenting, and again... you will find many negative BANS posts here, as well as comments. \r\n\r\nMark\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Dave –

I would never squash comments man… Yours was just held in moderation.

I won’t argue with you a bit on BANS alone sites being a huge red flag… if you go back and read some of the posts since my own sites starting getting deindexed back in May, you will see that. :-)

The key for me however, was to find a way to make them better, so Google DID love them and share their love by sending visitors. Thus… I started converting most of my better performing stores to WordPress and use them not only for BANS, but other aff programs as well.

Thanks for stopping in and commenting, and again… you will find many negative BANS posts here, as well as comments.

Mark

Mark

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]]> By: Davehttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14611 Dave Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:50:23 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14611 Funny how negative comments about BANS are not being accepted, shows the quality of the info on this blog.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14611','Dave'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14611','Dave','Funny how negative comments about BANS are not being accepted, shows the quality of the info on this blog.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Funny how negative comments about BANS are not being accepted, shows the quality of the info on this blog.
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]]> By: Anatomy of a Deindexed Website | The Niche Store Builder - Succeed with Build a Niche Storehttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14587 Anatomy of a Deindexed Website | The Niche Store Builder - Succeed with Build a Niche Store Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:04:15 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14587 [...] eBay Affiliate Program Doesn’t want your Lame Traffic! [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14587','Anatomy of a Deindexed Website | The Niche Store Builder - Succeed with Build a Niche Store'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14587','Anatomy of a Deindexed Website | The Niche Store Builder - Succeed with Build a Niche Store','[...] eBay Affiliate Program Doesn’t want your Lame Traffic! [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] eBay Affiliate Program Doesn’t want your Lame Traffic! [...]
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]]> By: Davehttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14586 Dave Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:38:49 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14586 I have given up on BANS, it is to hard to make some decent money with it, i had BANS sites with tons of fresh content (all my sites where added with 20 unique articles) (± 15 domains with BANS within a week time) and RSS feeds and YouTube movies but still one after the other got banned by Google.I have relocated the content to other sites and blogs and rebuild the rest of the domains that weren't banned yet, where i don't use BANS but affiliate programs and 70% / 80% of these articles and content pieces are ranking nicely for the keywords they where written for,(in total about 300 articles)My promotion efforts where 100% white hat article marketing blogging and such.My conclusion is that BANS is a huge red flag for Google and they will not hesitate to trow you out of the index.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14586','Dave'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14586','Dave','I have given up on BANS, it is to hard to make some decent money with it, i had BANS sites with tons of fresh content (all my sites where added with 20 unique articles) (± 15 domains with BANS within a week time) and RSS feeds and YouTube movies but still one after the other got banned by Google.\r\n\r\nI have relocated the content to other sites and blogs and rebuild the rest of the domains that weren\'t banned yet, where i don\'t use BANS but affiliate programs and 70% \/ 80% of these articles and content pieces are ranking nicely for the keywords they where written for,(in total about 300 articles) \r\n\r\nMy promotion efforts where 100% white hat article marketing blogging and such.\r\n\r\nMy conclusion is that BANS is a huge red flag for Google and they will not hesitate to trow you out of the index.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I have given up on BANS, it is to hard to make some decent money with it, i had BANS sites with tons of fresh content (all my sites where added with 20 unique articles) (± 15 domains with BANS within a week time) and RSS feeds and YouTube movies but still one after the other got banned by Google.

I have relocated the content to other sites and blogs and rebuild the rest of the domains that weren’t banned yet, where i don’t use BANS but affiliate programs and 70% / 80% of these articles and content pieces are ranking nicely for the keywords they where written for,(in total about 300 articles)

My promotion efforts where 100% white hat article marketing blogging and such.

My conclusion is that BANS is a huge red flag for Google and they will not hesitate to trow you out of the index.

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]]> By: James Mannhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14584 James Mann Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:24:03 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14584 Well when you do the math it really does show how much crap Google has to put up with. I really can't fault them for getting tough on us if we aren't willing to put forth a bit of real down home content on our sites.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14584','James Mann'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14584','James Mann','Well when you do the math it really does show how much crap Google has to put up with. I really can\'t fault them for getting tough on us if we aren\'t willing to put forth a bit of real down home content on our sites.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Well when you do the math it really does show how much crap Google has to put up with. I really can’t fault them for getting tough on us if we aren’t willing to put forth a bit of real down home content on our sites.
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]]> By: John Trebyhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14583 John Treby Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:53:54 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14583 What I find interesting is that I put a few web sites together selling some of WA affilates stuff-the web sites have all been de indexed but the blogs I put together are still up and indexed-so now leaving WA and closing down all the web sites and the blogs-what i will do with the domains is may be park them for awhile not sure if that is a good idea-but i am not going to waste any more of my time spending a small fortune on adwords to see great hits no sales and then google doubles the cost of my keywords-these are the sites that suck and i have been one of those idiots doing this. Now I just concentrate on some bans stores-I only have 5 running at present that only earn $50-$60 a month,but I feel the better side is to go with wordpress and have some sites with bans and many others selling other products-I do have two other problems (1) have cut the amount of products on one of my bans sites-do not have wordpress installed on the site but of course now i have heaps of pages getting 404 -with wordpress it is fairly easy to fix the problem but with a straight web site-for the life of me can not fix this (2) I have a site just set up as a blog,not a bans site at all just a blog-i want to incorporate the wp theme as also the main web page,is the process easy or is it like incorporating bans and word press-any help would be great.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14583','John Treby'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14583','John Treby','What I find interesting is that I put a few web sites together selling some of WA affilates stuff-the web sites have all been de indexed but the blogs I put together are still up and indexed-so now leaving WA and closing down all the web sites and the blogs-what i will do with the domains is may be park them for awhile not sure if that is a good idea-but i am not going to waste any more of my time spending a small fortune on adwords to see great hits no sales and then google doubles the cost of my keywords-these are the sites that suck and i have been one of those idiots doing this. Now I just concentrate on some bans stores-I only have 5 running at present that only earn $50-$60 a month,but I feel the better side is to go with wordpress and have some sites with bans and many others selling other products-I do have two other problems (1) have cut the amount of products on one of my bans sites-do not have wordpress installed on the site but of course now i have heaps of pages getting 404 -with wordpress it is fairly easy to fix the problem but with a straight web site-for the life of me can not fix this (2) I have a site just set up as a blog,not a bans site at all just a blog-i want to incorporate the wp theme as also the main web page,is the process easy or is it like incorporating bans and word press-any help would be great.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> What I find interesting is that I put a few web sites together selling some of WA affilates stuff-the web sites have all been de indexed but the blogs I put together are still up and indexed-so now leaving WA and closing down all the web sites and the blogs-what i will do with the domains is may be park them for awhile not sure if that is a good idea-but i am not going to waste any more of my time spending a small fortune on adwords to see great hits no sales and then google doubles the cost of my keywords-these are the sites that suck and i have been one of those idiots doing this. Now I just concentrate on some bans stores-I only have 5 running at present that only earn $50-$60 a month,but I feel the better side is to go with wordpress and have some sites with bans and many others selling other products-I do have two other problems (1) have cut the amount of products on one of my bans sites-do not have wordpress installed on the site but of course now i have heaps of pages getting 404 -with wordpress it is fairly easy to fix the problem but with a straight web site-for the life of me can not fix this (2) I have a site just set up as a blog,not a bans site at all just a blog-i want to incorporate the wp theme as also the main web page,is the process easy or is it like incorporating bans and word press-any help would be great.
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]]> By: Elijahhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14582 Elijah Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:31:03 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14582 At the end of the day Google determines what we can and cannot do in terms of running successful affiliate sites. If Google loves to deindex out-of-box BANs sites.. then you want to do the complete opposite.I didn't catch that thread in the forum - great resource though!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14582','Elijah'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14582','Elijah','At the end of the day Google determines what we can and cannot do in terms of running successful affiliate sites. If Google loves to deindex out-of-box BANs sites.. then you want to do the complete opposite.\r\n\r\nI didn\'t catch that thread in the forum - great resource though!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> At the end of the day Google determines what we can and cannot do in terms of running successful affiliate sites. If Google loves to deindex out-of-box BANs sites.. then you want to do the complete opposite.

I didn’t catch that thread in the forum – great resource though!

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]]> By: Alicehttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14580 Alice Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:03:16 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14580 LOL! Yes, I can see how that came about, but even so, this Internet Nazi crap really boils my butt. And 30 million pages out of how many billions are on the net? That's nothing.The thing is, this is what you'd expect with a medium that has zero barriers to entry. The thing will sink to the lowest common denominator, which is pretty low (and lots worse that any skinny ebay affiliate site out there!).If Google thinks it can raise the standards by these manipulations they are sadly deluded. Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel and his buddies and their crappy websites won't be affected at all, and will continue to pollute the cesspool...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14580','Alice'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14580','Alice','LOL! Yes, I can see how that came about, but even so, this Internet Nazi crap really boils my butt. And 30 million pages out of how many billions are on the net? That\'s nothing. \r\n\r\nThe thing is, this is what you\'d expect with a medium that has zero barriers to entry. The thing will sink to the lowest common denominator, which is pretty low (and lots worse that any skinny ebay affiliate site out there!). \r\n\r\nIf Google thinks it can raise the standards by these manipulations they are sadly deluded. Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel and his buddies and their crappy websites won\'t be affected at all, and will continue to pollute the cesspool...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> LOL! Yes, I can see how that came about, but even so, this Internet Nazi crap really boils my butt. And 30 million pages out of how many billions are on the net? That’s nothing.

The thing is, this is what you’d expect with a medium that has zero barriers to entry. The thing will sink to the lowest common denominator, which is pretty low (and lots worse that any skinny ebay affiliate site out there!).

If Google thinks it can raise the standards by these manipulations they are sadly deluded. Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel and his buddies and their crappy websites won’t be affected at all, and will continue to pollute the cesspool…

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]]> By: Markhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14579 Mark Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:31:40 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14579 @ Alice -Just do a site operator search. ie: "site:mysite.com" and also "site:www.mysite.com"As for the whole gamut of reasons for the shift in engaged traffic, I have a whole tin-foil hat reasoning behind WHY I think it happened... but again, thats another post!To summarize:Google = Largest search engine eBay = Largest online shopping network ePN = one of, if not THE affiliate network with the most members.15000 BANS users * 20 sites each * 100 pages per site = 30 Million pages of SPAM in Googles index! (Yes, its THEIR index, with OUR content)Google says to ebay... YOUR affiliates are loading OUR index with crap - do something about it, or we will make sure NONE of your ebay.com, half.com, paypal.com etc links, show up in OUR index!There it is in a nutshell....Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14579','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14579','Mark','@ Alice -\r\n\r\nJust do a site operator search. ie: \"site:mysite.com\" and also \"site:www.mysite.com\"\r\n\r\nAs for the whole gamut of reasons for the shift in engaged traffic, I have a whole tin-foil hat reasoning behind WHY I think it happened... but again, thats another post!\r\n\r\nTo summarize:\r\n\r\nGoogle = Largest search engine\r\neBay = Largest online shopping network\r\nePN = one of, if not THE affiliate network with the most members.\r\n\r\n15000 BANS users * 20 sites each * 100 pages per site = 30 Million pages of SPAM in Googles index! (Yes, its THEIR index, with OUR content)\r\n\r\nGoogle says to ebay... YOUR affiliates are loading OUR index with crap - do something about it, or we will make sure NONE of your ebay.com, half.com, paypal.com etc links, show up in OUR index!\r\n\r\nThere it is in a nutshell....\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Alice -

Just do a site operator search. ie: “site:mysite.com” and also “site:www.mysite.com”

As for the whole gamut of reasons for the shift in engaged traffic, I have a whole tin-foil hat reasoning behind WHY I think it happened… but again, thats another post!

To summarize:

Google = Largest search engine
eBay = Largest online shopping network
ePN = one of, if not THE affiliate network with the most members.

15000 BANS users * 20 sites each * 100 pages per site = 30 Million pages of SPAM in Googles index! (Yes, its THEIR index, with OUR content)

Google says to ebay… YOUR affiliates are loading OUR index with crap – do something about it, or we will make sure NONE of your ebay.com, half.com, paypal.com etc links, show up in OUR index!

There it is in a nutshell….

Mark

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]]> By: Alicehttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm/comment-page-1#comment-14578 Alice Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:41:33 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-affiliate-program-doesnt-want-your-lame-traffic.htm#comment-14578 How can you tell if your site has been de-indexed?? Almost all of my sites except a few that a set up but never built out show that they've been indexed when I look them up on site:domainname.com. Even ones that are still a bit on the skinny side.What really pisses me off about this whole new paradigm is ebay, Google et al telling us what kinds of sites we should be looking at AS BUYERS. As a buyer, there are many many times when I just want to get in, buy my item, and get out. Why should dedicated, TARGETED buyers have to wade thru a lot of crap just to spend their money??I think that voting with dollars should be good enough for ebay etc. If buyers shop through a site for an item, then that should be good enough. There is no way to know what actually "engaged" that buyer to make the purchase. Maybe it was an article, or maybe it was a glimpse of that item listing for something they've been meaning to buy. A dollar is a dollar, whether it's "engaged" or not.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('14578','Alice'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('14578','Alice','How can you tell if your site has been de-indexed?? Almost all of my sites except a few that a set up but never built out show that they\'ve been indexed when I look them up on site:domainname.com. Even ones that are still a bit on the skinny side.\r\n\r\nWhat really pisses me off about this whole new paradigm is ebay, Google et al telling us what kinds of sites we should be looking at AS BUYERS. As a buyer, there are many many times when I just want to get in, buy my item, and get out. Why should dedicated, TARGETED buyers have to wade thru a lot of crap just to spend their money?? \r\n\r\nI think that voting with dollars should be good enough for ebay etc. If buyers shop through a site for an item, then that should be good enough. There is no way to know what actually \"engaged\" that buyer to make the purchase. Maybe it was an article, or maybe it was a glimpse of that item listing for something they\'ve been meaning to buy. A dollar is a dollar, whether it\'s \"engaged\" or not.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> How can you tell if your site has been de-indexed?? Almost all of my sites except a few that a set up but never built out show that they’ve been indexed when I look them up on site:domainname.com. Even ones that are still a bit on the skinny side.

What really pisses me off about this whole new paradigm is ebay, Google et al telling us what kinds of sites we should be looking at AS BUYERS. As a buyer, there are many many times when I just want to get in, buy my item, and get out. Why should dedicated, TARGETED buyers have to wade thru a lot of crap just to spend their money??

I think that voting with dollars should be good enough for ebay etc. If buyers shop through a site for an item, then that should be good enough. There is no way to know what actually “engaged” that buyer to make the purchase. Maybe it was an article, or maybe it was a glimpse of that item listing for something they’ve been meaning to buy. A dollar is a dollar, whether it’s “engaged” or not.

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