Comments on: eBay Responds to Hundreds of Virtual Layoffs http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm Learn How to Build and Market Niche Websites Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:27:54 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: The Ebay Partner Network Affiliate Dump Fiasco | All The Affiliate Marketing Shit That's Fit To Rake http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13466 The Ebay Partner Network Affiliate Dump Fiasco | All The Affiliate Marketing Shit That's Fit To Rake Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:08:23 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13466 [...] is 2008, people blog about shit like [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13466','The Ebay Partner Network Affiliate Dump Fiasco | All The Affiliate Marketing Shit That\'s Fit To Rake'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13466','The Ebay Partner Network Affiliate Dump Fiasco | All The Affiliate Marketing Shit That\'s Fit To Rake','[...] is 2008, people blog about shit like [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] is 2008, people blog about shit like [...]
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]]> By: John Treby http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13462 John Treby Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:30:19 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13462 @Tod
Great post and i feel your insight to this problem is correct.
and how true what you said – “bottom line focused, decisions often have harsh consequences for the “little guy”.
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]]> By: David http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13446 David Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:33:41 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13446 Hi Taoski / Walter, The EPN expiration of the account could not of come at a worst time, only 3 weeks ago 16 of my BANS sites were delisted off Google with no reason given. My sites all contain content and absolutely no underhand tactics. God its a great world. But I am determined to succeed against all odds and Mark is a great inspiration. I do have an Ebay shop which I have had for 3 years and it still means nothing Ebay, we are all at their beck and call. I will be following Mark's articles on other ways to monetize our stores. After all the blood sweat and tears I am not stopping now. Lets fight it together.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13446','David'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13446','David','Hi Taoski \/ Walter,\r\n\r\n The EPN expiration of the account could not of come at a worst time, only 3 weeks ago 16 of my BANS sites were delisted off Google with no reason given. My sites all contain content and absolutely no underhand tactics. God its a great world. But I am determined to succeed against all odds and Mark is a great inspiration. I do have an Ebay shop which I have had for 3 years and it still means nothing Ebay, we are all at their beck and call. I will be following Mark\'s articles on other ways to monetize our stores. After all the blood sweat and tears I am not stopping now. Lets fight it together.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hi Taoski / Walter,

The EPN expiration of the account could not of come at a worst time, only 3 weeks ago 16 of my BANS sites were delisted off Google with no reason given. My sites all contain content and absolutely no underhand tactics. God its a great world. But I am determined to succeed against all odds and Mark is a great inspiration. I do have an Ebay shop which I have had for 3 years and it still means nothing Ebay, we are all at their beck and call. I will be following Mark’s articles on other ways to monetize our stores. After all the blood sweat and tears I am not stopping now. Lets fight it together.

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]]> By: Dan http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13442 Dan Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:51:32 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13442 I am a firm believer that this is due to all of the cookie stuffing and other black hat tatics that I have seen advertised on the web. Just like Taoski mentioned, there are actually services that you can buy to get you ACRU signups, totally black ha and I have never used them, but they exist, this could also explain why the ACRU payouts are changing, just a thought. I have MANY sites that would be considered crap but they still exist, maybe it just not my time...yet!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13442','Dan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13442','Dan','I am a firm believer that this is due to all of the cookie stuffing and other black hat tatics that I have seen advertised on the web. Just like Taoski mentioned, there are actually services that you can buy to get you ACRU signups, totally black ha and I have never used them, but they exist, this could also explain why the ACRU payouts are changing, just a thought. I have MANY sites that would be considered crap but they still exist, maybe it just not my time...yet!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I am a firm believer that this is due to all of the cookie stuffing and other black hat tatics that I have seen advertised on the web. Just like Taoski mentioned, there are actually services that you can buy to get you ACRU signups, totally black ha and I have never used them, but they exist, this could also explain why the ACRU payouts are changing, just a thought. I have MANY sites that would be considered crap but they still exist, maybe it just not my time…yet!
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]]> By: Walter Minton http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13441 Walter Minton Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:31:29 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13441 David, Do you sell on eBay? I was wondering if working eBay from both sides and puting a few of our own ebay store products on Bans would help. Just thinking. Also they may be blundering around and trying to scare the bad guys. If they were making money from you they may return you to the fold later. I hope so. Walt<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13441','Walter Minton'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13441','Walter Minton','David,\r\nDo you sell on eBay? I was wondering if working eBay from both sides and puting a few of our own ebay store products on Bans would help. Just thinking.\r\n\r\nAlso they may be blundering around and trying to scare the bad guys. If they were making money from you they may return you to the fold later. I hope so.\r\n\r\nWalt'); return false;">Quote</a></div> David,
Do you sell on eBay? I was wondering if working eBay from both sides and puting a few of our own ebay store products on Bans would help. Just thinking.

Also they may be blundering around and trying to scare the bad guys. If they were making money from you they may return you to the fold later. I hope so.

Walt

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]]> By: Taoski http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13440 Taoski Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:29:02 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13440 @David I feel for you mate. I only have 6 sites (and only 2 making any real money) so I am not at deaths door if I do (or when I do) get my EPN account cancelled. I will be looking to use Wordpress to replace the sites with auto generated content plus Adsense - or a script like http://www.jtpratt.com/free-niche-site-script/ but replace the eBay stuff with another providers items. But only if I do get kicked from the EPN. I wonder if it's worth making any new sites now.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13440','Taoski'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13440','Taoski','@David I feel for you mate.\r\n\r\nI only have 6 sites (and only 2 making any real money) so I am not at deaths door if I do (or when I do) get my EPN account cancelled.\r\n\r\nI will be looking to use Wordpress to replace the sites with auto generated content plus Adsense - or a script like http:\/\/www.jtpratt.com\/free-niche-site-script\/ but replace the eBay stuff with another providers items.\r\n\r\nBut only if I do get kicked from the EPN.\r\n\r\nI wonder if it\'s worth making any new sites now.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @David I feel for you mate.

I only have 6 sites (and only 2 making any real money) so I am not at deaths door if I do (or when I do) get my EPN account cancelled.

I will be looking to use Wordpress to replace the sites with auto generated content plus Adsense – or a script like http://www.jtpratt.com/free-niche-site-script/ but replace the eBay stuff with another providers items.

But only if I do get kicked from the EPN.

I wonder if it’s worth making any new sites now.

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]]> By: David http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13439 David Fri, 22 Aug 2008 14:19:01 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13439 I speak as being one of the devasted expired account users. I have never used anything but natural organic search engine traffic. This has all been achieved by thorough research into onpage and off page SEO and application. Never used stumble and some of my sites have EPC's of over 34. The reality is nobody is safe and with EPN it is only a matter of time for all of us that have strived to get out of the 9 to 5 rat race and form an honest internet living for our families<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13439','David'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13439','David','I speak as being one of the devasted expired account users. I have never used anything but natural organic search engine traffic. This has all been achieved by thorough research into onpage and off page SEO and application. Never used stumble and some of my sites have EPC\'s of over 34. The reality is nobody is safe and with EPN it is only a matter of time for all of us that have strived to get out of the 9 to 5 rat race and form an honest internet living for our families'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I speak as being one of the devasted expired account users. I have never used anything but natural organic search engine traffic. This has all been achieved by thorough research into onpage and off page SEO and application. Never used stumble and some of my sites have EPC’s of over 34. The reality is nobody is safe and with EPN it is only a matter of time for all of us that have strived to get out of the 9 to 5 rat race and form an honest internet living for our families
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]]> By: Eric http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13428 Eric Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:52:01 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13428 Ok…I just logged into my ePN and looked at my clicks per campaign…..and half of my stores weren’t even listed!

Does this mean that they simply didn’t get any clicks this month (which very well could be the case)….or have those sites been “dropped” by ePN?

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]]> By: Andrew http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13427 Andrew Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:25:48 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13427 I think Todd could be onto something with the ACRU metric. Ebay would have to be quite unhappy if they were paying out big commissions on low-quality new signups. It would also explain why they can't provide metrics as something is being "exploited".<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13427','Andrew'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13427','Andrew','I think Todd could be onto something with the ACRU metric. Ebay would have to be quite unhappy if they were paying out big commissions on low-quality new signups. It would also explain why they can\'t provide metrics as something is being \"exploited\".'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I think Todd could be onto something with the ACRU metric. Ebay would have to be quite unhappy if they were paying out big commissions on low-quality new signups. It would also explain why they can’t provide metrics as something is being “exploited”.
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]]> By: Taoski http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13426 Taoski Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:57:04 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-responds-to-hundreds-of-virtual-layoffs.htm#comment-13426 “I know there have been a number of requests to provide insight into all of the metrics via which we are evaluating affiliate traffic, but unfortunately there’s an active black hat community that is pretty effective at exploiting these insights so we can’t go into details on them”

This part of the message says to me that they are aware of a few ways of black-hatting the cookie stuffers and they may be targeting them first and foremost.

I have a single page that gets 300 visitors a day – and it would be pretty easy for me to drop related eBay items into an iFrame that also drops the cookie on them too.

Perhaps it is this kind of thing they are going after? I bet there are plenty of other ways it can be done too.

After all, I bet they have the ability to read who grabs their RSS feeds and how many times compared to how many cookies they drop too. That would show up a black hatter immediately!

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