Comments on: eBay Says Screw 2012 – Declares Doomsday in March 2010! http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm Learn How to Build and Market Niche Websites Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:26:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mikehttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18527 Mike Tue, 13 Apr 2010 04:05:46 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18527 I have been in the antique business over 30 years. I have been selling on ebay since Jan. 1997. I have had an ebay store for many years. Last year I averaged 1800 to 2000 items in my store every month. Ebay removed 60 of my items last July due to the fact I was accepting money orders. These items were listed well before their policy not allowing money orders came into effect. Staring in August I worked very hard at putting all my ebay store items on to my web site. Today I have fewer than 60 items on my ebay store. By the end of this month I will close my ebay store due to their high costs and rules not favorable to sellers. I will still sell on ebay, but no where near the amount I did in the past.One last note;DOUBLE STANDARDEbay does not allow sellers to accept money orders as form as payment for their items. Yet Ebay does accept money orders as a form of payment when you need to pay their bill.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('18527','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('18527','Mike','I have been in the antique business over 30 years.\r\nI have been selling on ebay since Jan. 1997.\r\nI have had an ebay store for many years.\r\nLast year I averaged 1800 to 2000 items in my store every month.\r\nEbay removed 60 of my items last July due to the fact I was accepting money orders. These items were listed well before their policy not allowing money orders came into effect. \r\nStaring in August I worked very hard at putting all my ebay store items on to my web site.\r\nToday I have fewer than 60 items on my ebay store.\r\nBy the end of this month I will close my ebay store due to their high costs and rules not favorable to sellers.\r\nI will still sell on ebay, but no where near the amount I did in the past.\r\n\r\nOne last note; \r\n\r\nDOUBLE STANDARD\r\n\r\nEbay does not allow sellers to accept money orders as form as payment for their items.\r\nYet Ebay does accept money orders as a form of payment when you need to pay their bill.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I have been in the antique business over 30 years.
I have been selling on ebay since Jan. 1997.
I have had an ebay store for many years.
Last year I averaged 1800 to 2000 items in my store every month.
Ebay removed 60 of my items last July due to the fact I was accepting money orders. These items were listed well before their policy not allowing money orders came into effect.
Staring in August I worked very hard at putting all my ebay store items on to my web site.
Today I have fewer than 60 items on my ebay store.
By the end of this month I will close my ebay store due to their high costs and rules not favorable to sellers.
I will still sell on ebay, but no where near the amount I did in the past.

One last note;

DOUBLE STANDARD

Ebay does not allow sellers to accept money orders as form as payment for their items.
Yet Ebay does accept money orders as a form of payment when you need to pay their bill.

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]]> By: Mark Hansenhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18194 Mark Hansen Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:42:21 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18194 <a href='#comment-18193' rel="nofollow">@Affiliate X</a> - The part about your buying habits really rings very true for us here as well.We DO still buy some things n eBay - but 3 years ago, we bought just about everything on eBay, since that really WAS THE PLACE to find the best deals.Now it seems like you can find the same deals just about anywhere online.M<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('18194','Mark Hansen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('18194','Mark Hansen','<a href=\'#comment-18193\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Affiliate X<\/a> - The part about your buying habits really rings very true for us here as well.\r\n\r\nWe DO still buy some things n eBay - but 3 years ago, we bought just about everything on eBay, since that really WAS THE PLACE to find the best deals.\r\n\r\nNow it seems like you can find the same deals just about anywhere online.\r\n\r\nM'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Affiliate X – The part about your buying habits really rings very true for us here as well.

We DO still buy some things n eBay – but 3 years ago, we bought just about everything on eBay, since that really WAS THE PLACE to find the best deals.

Now it seems like you can find the same deals just about anywhere online.

M

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]]> By: Affiliate Xhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18193 Affiliate X Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:34:08 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18193 I like selling on Amazon. It's absurdly easy to list something, far easier than eBay, and they give you your fee breakdown before you submit your listing so you know exactly what you'll take home. This makes it easy to figure your margins. Don't forget that on eBay it's not just the final value fee you have to think of but also a listing fee and probably a Paypal fee. eBay lost me as a seller years ago when my category became overrun with junk listings from China and I figured out how to build a website.It's funny too when I think of my online buying habits. I buy from Amazon on a monthly basis, and rarely (if ever) buy from eBay anymore. Several years ago this would have been the opposite.As far as ePN goes, I've removed the majority of my links to them and am seeing a corresponding increase in my popularity with the search engines and much higher ePN ppc. Although, their ppc is still jumping around all over the place. Whatever. I'm okay with sending them less traffic.Now was I supposed to have five legs or not have five legs? I'm confused. ;)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('18193','Affiliate X'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('18193','Affiliate X','I like selling on Amazon. It\'s absurdly easy to list something, far easier than eBay, and they give you your fee breakdown before you submit your listing so you know exactly what you\'ll take home. This makes it easy to figure your margins. Don\'t forget that on eBay it\'s not just the final value fee you have to think of but also a listing fee and probably a Paypal fee. eBay lost me as a seller years ago when my category became overrun with junk listings from China and I figured out how to build a website. \r\n\r\nIt\'s funny too when I think of my online buying habits. I buy from Amazon on a monthly basis, and rarely (if ever) buy from eBay anymore. Several years ago this would have been the opposite.\r\n\r\nAs far as ePN goes, I\'ve removed the majority of my links to them and am seeing a corresponding increase in my popularity with the search engines and much higher ePN ppc. Although, their ppc is still jumping around all over the place. Whatever. I\'m okay with sending them less traffic. \r\n\r\nNow was I supposed to have five legs or not have five legs? I\'m confused. ;)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I like selling on Amazon. It’s absurdly easy to list something, far easier than eBay, and they give you your fee breakdown before you submit your listing so you know exactly what you’ll take home. This makes it easy to figure your margins. Don’t forget that on eBay it’s not just the final value fee you have to think of but also a listing fee and probably a Paypal fee. eBay lost me as a seller years ago when my category became overrun with junk listings from China and I figured out how to build a website.

It’s funny too when I think of my online buying habits. I buy from Amazon on a monthly basis, and rarely (if ever) buy from eBay anymore. Several years ago this would have been the opposite.

As far as ePN goes, I’ve removed the majority of my links to them and am seeing a corresponding increase in my popularity with the search engines and much higher ePN ppc. Although, their ppc is still jumping around all over the place. Whatever. I’m okay with sending them less traffic.

Now was I supposed to have five legs or not have five legs? I’m confused. ;)

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]]> By: Billhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18190 Bill Tue, 02 Mar 2010 00:32:50 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18190 I'd bet almost none or at least what they do get they won't keep once sellers realize that Ebay, love em or hate em, is a ROCKING marketplace to sell stuff on.What these fees might do is get rid of a lot of the junk sellers, people trying to sell at ridiculously low margins, etc.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('18190','Bill'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('18190','Bill','I\'d bet almost none or at least what they do get they won\'t keep once sellers realize that Ebay, love em or hate em, is a ROCKING marketplace to sell stuff on.\r\n\r\nWhat these fees might do is get rid of a lot of the junk sellers, people trying to sell at ridiculously low margins, etc.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’d bet almost none or at least what they do get they won’t keep once sellers realize that Ebay, love em or hate em, is a ROCKING marketplace to sell stuff on.

What these fees might do is get rid of a lot of the junk sellers, people trying to sell at ridiculously low margins, etc.

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]]> By: Rochellehttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18180 Rochelle Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:51:08 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18180 Don't you just love how the fee reductions start on products that sell for $2000 and up? How very generous of them!Recently, I've been hearing about a new auction site called youpillar.com. I wonder how much business they are getting from people running from eBay...Rochelle<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('18180','Rochelle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('18180','Rochelle','Don\'t you just love how the fee reductions start on products that sell for $2000 and up? How very generous of them! \r\n\r\nRecently, I\'ve been hearing about a new auction site called youpillar.com. I wonder how much business they are getting from people running from eBay...\r\n\r\nRochelle'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Don’t you just love how the fee reductions start on products that sell for $2000 and up? How very generous of them!

Recently, I’ve been hearing about a new auction site called youpillar.com. I wonder how much business they are getting from people running from eBay…

Rochelle

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]]> By: Seanhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18177 Sean Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:05:39 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18177 <a href='#comment-18176' rel="nofollow">@Mark Hansen</a> - <a href='#comment-18175' rel="nofollow">@Bill</a> I couldn't agree with you two even more than today. Who would of thunk it.But I've always concentrated on 'buying' traffic. Along with QCP, BANS and it's issues have made me move to a different model, with phpbay and rzon. No longer are they so much thin sites.I'm in it - to win it.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('18177','Sean'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('18177','Sean','<a href=\'#comment-18176\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Mark Hansen<\/a> - <a href=\'#comment-18175\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Bill<\/a>\r\nI couldn\'t agree with you two even more than today. Who would of thunk it.\r\n\r\nBut I\'ve always concentrated on \'buying\' traffic. Along with QCP, BANS and it\'s issues have made me move to a different model, with phpbay and rzon. No longer are they so much thin sites.\r\n\r\nI\'m in it - to win it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Mark Hansen – @Bill
I couldn’t agree with you two even more than today. Who would of thunk it.

But I’ve always concentrated on ‘buying’ traffic. Along with QCP, BANS and it’s issues have made me move to a different model, with phpbay and rzon. No longer are they so much thin sites.

I’m in it – to win it.

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]]> By: Mark Hansenhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18176 Mark Hansen Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:23:45 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18176 @Bill – “I’d rather be an expert at something than mediocre at everything.” LOL – That’s the exact message I was trying to tell that guy at the RZon forum! LOL

I still have a LOT of old residual links from stray posts that go into ePN. My EPC stayed around .26 all this month until a bot hit on the 19th, and drove it dow to where it is now, at .16 epc.

I agree with you completely – if nothing more, QPC has really forced a lot of us to look at our efforts, diversify more, and optimize our sites to a more targeted type of traffic (Buying traffic, versus reading traffic)

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]]> By: Billhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18175 Bill Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:00:44 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18175 Mark - I wouldn't doubt it. I don't know what they have to gain other than maybe some admin costs from eliminating them but whatever floats their boat I guess....at the end of the day it is there company.I was a huge detractor of QCP in the beginning but after removing some of my crap sites, my EPC is respectable at least and hovers between .10 and .14 cents.I have moved to Amazon where it makes sense and added adsense if it was the right thing to do. Honestly.....and this is hard to admit...but honestly I am WAAAY better off post QCP than pre....because before I had all my eggs pretty much in one basket.Post QCP I have become much more diversified. I still want to add a few different revenue streams but too much diversity is a bad thing too....I'd rather be an expert at something than mediocre at everything.My 2 cents.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('18175','Bill'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('18175','Bill','Mark - I wouldn\'t doubt it. I don\'t know what they have to gain other than maybe some admin costs from eliminating them but whatever floats their boat I guess....at the end of the day it is there company.\r\n\r\nI was a huge detractor of QCP in the beginning but after removing some of my crap sites, my EPC is respectable at least and hovers between .10 and .14 cents.\r\n\r\nI have moved to Amazon where it makes sense and added adsense if it was the right thing to do. Honestly.....and this is hard to admit...but honestly I am WAAAY better off post QCP than pre....because before I had all my eggs pretty much in one basket.\r\n\r\nPost QCP I have become much more diversified. I still want to add a few different revenue streams but too much diversity is a bad thing too....I\'d rather be an expert at something than mediocre at everything.\r\n\r\nMy 2 cents.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mark – I wouldn’t doubt it. I don’t know what they have to gain other than maybe some admin costs from eliminating them but whatever floats their boat I guess….at the end of the day it is there company.

I was a huge detractor of QCP in the beginning but after removing some of my crap sites, my EPC is respectable at least and hovers between .10 and .14 cents.

I have moved to Amazon where it makes sense and added adsense if it was the right thing to do. Honestly…..and this is hard to admit…but honestly I am WAAAY better off post QCP than pre….because before I had all my eggs pretty much in one basket.

Post QCP I have become much more diversified. I still want to add a few different revenue streams but too much diversity is a bad thing too….I’d rather be an expert at something than mediocre at everything.

My 2 cents.

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]]> By: Mark Hansenhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18174 Mark Hansen Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:27:17 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18174 <a href='#comment-18173' rel="nofollow">@Bill</a> - My understanding from an internal source is that the QCP program was <u>actually designed</u> to eliminate the less-than-professional affiliates anyhow!Expectations from eBay were that they would lose more than 50% of affiliates, with some forecasting up to 80% of affiliates either being lost, or accounts terminated!M<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('18174','Mark Hansen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('18174','Mark Hansen','<a href=\'#comment-18173\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Bill<\/a> - My understanding from an internal source is that the QCP program was <u>actually designed<\/u> to eliminate the less-than-professional affiliates anyhow! \r\n\r\nExpectations from eBay were that they would lose more than 50% of affiliates, with some forecasting up to 80% of affiliates either being lost, or accounts terminated!\r\n\r\nM'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Bill – My understanding from an internal source is that the QCP program was actually designed to eliminate the less-than-professional affiliates anyhow!

Expectations from eBay were that they would lose more than 50% of affiliates, with some forecasting up to 80% of affiliates either being lost, or accounts terminated!

M

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]]> By: Billhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/ebay-says-screw-2012-declares-doomsday-in-march-2010.htm/comment-page-1#comment-18173 Bill Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:51:42 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=1710#comment-18173 This is not directed at anyone in particular....so nobody get their panties wadded up over what I am about to say.My take is that it has become fashionable to hate Ebay and deservedly so considering the way they run their affiliate program. At the end of the day though, I think all the yappers that say they are taking all of their traffic elsewhere, aren't.I think they stay right there at EPN and just bitch and complain. I doubt Ebay has even felt a hiccup from these "hordes" of affiliates leaving them in droves, why...because most of those doing the complaining are the ones who don't make any money at this game. Even if they DO actually leave, who cares?I am not saying this is true of all and I am known to be a bit cynical but I think it makes people feel better to be able to lay the blame on Ebay rather than on themselves. It's better to think that Ebay is conspiring against them rather than they just simply SUCK at building affiliate sites.So I guess if it makes somebody feel better to blame Ebay then by all means have at it.....or better yet...quit and go do something else. The more of you that quit this game today, makes it easier for me to succeed. Quit taking up the good domain names and then putting a POS site on it...that would be the best thing you could do to contribute to society. If you suck at this, either do what it takes to get better..or quit....but don't sit there pointing fingers at Ebay.Meanwhile maybe we could use the forums and the blogs to find ways to succeed rather than piss and moan about the invisible Ebay monster taking all of our high quality, buying traffic that we got from StumbleUpon.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('18173','Bill'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('18173','Bill','This is not directed at anyone in particular....so nobody get their panties wadded up over what I am about to say.\r\n\r\nMy take is that it has become fashionable to hate Ebay and deservedly so considering the way they run their affiliate program. At the end of the day though, I think all the yappers that say they are taking all of their traffic elsewhere, aren\'t. \r\n\r\nI think they stay right there at EPN and just bitch and complain. I doubt Ebay has even felt a hiccup from these \"hordes\" of affiliates leaving them in droves, why...because most of those doing the complaining are the ones who don\'t make any money at this game. Even if they DO actually leave, who cares? \r\n\r\nI am not saying this is true of all and I am known to be a bit cynical but I think it makes people feel better to be able to lay the blame on Ebay rather than on themselves. It\'s better to think that Ebay is conspiring against them rather than they just simply SUCK at building affiliate sites.\r\n\r\nSo I guess if it makes somebody feel better to blame Ebay then by all means have at it.....or better yet...quit and go do something else. The more of you that quit this game today, makes it easier for me to succeed. Quit taking up the good domain names and then putting a POS site on it...that would be the best thing you could do to contribute to society. If you suck at this, either do what it takes to get better..or quit....but don\'t sit there pointing fingers at Ebay.\r\n\r\nMeanwhile maybe we could use the forums and the blogs to find ways to succeed rather than piss and moan about the invisible Ebay monster taking all of our high quality, buying traffic that we got from StumbleUpon.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This is not directed at anyone in particular….so nobody get their panties wadded up over what I am about to say.

My take is that it has become fashionable to hate Ebay and deservedly so considering the way they run their affiliate program. At the end of the day though, I think all the yappers that say they are taking all of their traffic elsewhere, aren’t.

I think they stay right there at EPN and just bitch and complain. I doubt Ebay has even felt a hiccup from these “hordes” of affiliates leaving them in droves, why…because most of those doing the complaining are the ones who don’t make any money at this game. Even if they DO actually leave, who cares?

I am not saying this is true of all and I am known to be a bit cynical but I think it makes people feel better to be able to lay the blame on Ebay rather than on themselves. It’s better to think that Ebay is conspiring against them rather than they just simply SUCK at building affiliate sites.

So I guess if it makes somebody feel better to blame Ebay then by all means have at it…..or better yet…quit and go do something else. The more of you that quit this game today, makes it easier for me to succeed. Quit taking up the good domain names and then putting a POS site on it…that would be the best thing you could do to contribute to society. If you suck at this, either do what it takes to get better..or quit….but don’t sit there pointing fingers at Ebay.

Meanwhile maybe we could use the forums and the blogs to find ways to succeed rather than piss and moan about the invisible Ebay monster taking all of our high quality, buying traffic that we got from StumbleUpon.

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