Google PageRank Update in Progress!
26 September 2008
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Its only been a little over a month since the last toolbar PR update from Google, but guess what… it’s started again!
I have been watching several of my own sites fluctuate up and down over the past few hours.
Check yours!
Mark
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I just checked mine. Went from PR0 to PR3 and over 8k unique visitors. Things are looking good so far.
I have yet to check Page Rank for any virtual real estate that I own. I try to focus on the interactivity within my site’s community rather than numbers and ranks. There’s just too many!
My blogs went up in PR, my BANS site ALL dropped to PR-0
what’s this toolbar you’re talking about and where do I get it??
Just about every site of my lost whatever rank they’d had, including the ones that had lots of content before and after conversion to the BANS/WP hybrid. This is beyond discouraging…
When some of these were BANS only, they were moving up in rank nicely and I had sever 3-ranked sites. Now they’re at 0, and one of them is ranked 1. What the hell happened??
Alice – Pagerank is a moving target that will always change. Even though I talk about it on here and you will read about it at EVERY website that talks about rankings, it is truly a useless number for determining the success of a site!
I have one site that is PR3 and gets only 50 daily visitors, yet I have another that WAS PR3 and is now PR1, but gets 1000 daily visitors!
Again, although its talked about as a measure of site effectiveness, worry more about your traffic than anything else!!
I read on a forum that a guy had a PR0 site doing well until Google deindexed it a week ago. last night, it received a PR1 status, even though its still deindexed!!
Mark
All my bans sites are now PR0, but my blog went from a 2 to a 3
I checked my sites in Google Webmaster after finding PR disappearing altogether. 90% of my sites have been deindexed or all links removed. Whats up with that?
Dr Bob –
The one site I added the WP template for you was deindexed awhile ago, I do not know about any others, but it sounds like Google have found your sites, like MANY others, and dropped them from the index.
I am very sorry to hear about it… and it is the same reason I decided to go to WordPress over BANS only sites several months ago.
The best thing I can recommend is to forget about the deindexed sites, let whatever traffic other engines are bringing, continue to let the sites live, albeit limited.
I have successfully had one of my sites reindexed, but the other I have been trying to get back in, is on month 6, with no changes still.
DO NOT feel alone on this… you are one of thousands that are being dropped by G.
Mark
So could someone please tell me how to check what the page rank/index status is? I suspect that some of my sites are de-indexed but I don’t know how to check any of this stuff. Help please!! :-)
@ alice –
Go to Google and in the search box, just type:
site:yourdomain.com
For example, your linked site in this comment would be:
site:creativistcommunications.com
Which returns 38 results. Also remember to check with and without the www. in front.
Mark
So if it pulls up links, then your site is still indexed. However, it may or may not be ranked, right? I just checked another site that has about the same number of items indexed, but isn’t ranked and hardly gets any traffic. However, its a BANS site I recently added WP to…
If you check and there are NO links listed, then you’re de-indexed, right? Or do they just tell you somewhere that you are?
“So could someone please tell me how to check what the page rank/index status is? I suspect that some of my sites are de-indexed but I don’t know how to check any of this stuff. Help please!! :-)”
Alice,
I use seoquake.com it’s a toolbar and works great..check It out.
Rick
@Rick Mileski.
. you can use this tool to check pr. http://www.iwebtool.com/pagerank_checker or you can just download the google toolbar and any page that you are on the pr will be shown at the top.. the toolbar is at http://toolbar.google.com/T5/intl/en/index.html
Alright! i’m on PG 2 up from 0…
Hey, it’s something… ;)
Anthony.
If one of your BANS sites was de-indexed by Google, would it be wise to let it just drop out of sight or try to inject new life into it by going the BANS/WP route…and hope that Google will re-index it.
There are still many great BANS sites out there that were made with much genuine effort and it would be a pity to see them go into limbo without trying the BANS/WP route…
What is the general opinion on this…?
Thanks
David
@ David -
IMHO – it really depends on how much you like the domain name. ALL of your original content can be moved to a new domain and revived MUCH quicker than trying to getting it reindexed.
When I had many sites deindexed, I was able to get one back within a few months by going the blog route, but one other site, which in my opinion was MUCH better, is still not reindexed after 5-6 requests and full site conversion.
Moving your original content to a new domain with a blog/bans site, and getting reindexed is a short process compared to months or years of never being included again!
Mark
Mark
Thanks for your insight.. The domain name in question is one that I registered for 2 years. it has a BANS site… I really like this name as I feel it has potential..
This of course is my opinion.. What about if I went the BANS/WP route, giving it a time line of say 3 months, then if nothing happens just scrap it and register a similiar name..
Could I then transfer the content created from the old domain( BANS) onto the new domain ( BANS/WP) .Would this be duplicate content..??
Are domain names really that important?
Thanks for your thoughts on this….
David
@ David -
the only reason I mentioned the domain name, is because a domain like “buy-this-modern-automobile.com” has much less value than something like hybridcar.com .
If you like the name and want to keep it, I would probably remove BANS all together. Put a blog on the root of the domain and start blogging. After the site is back in the index, if you want to add BANS back in, you can do so then.
The reason i suggest removing bans completely for the short term, is because it will reduce the duplicate content to 0%. If/when you do decide to add it back in the future, you can really focus on making each page unique, adding them slowly versus all at once.
Mark
For those of you that integrated the WP blog/BANS.
Have you been able to avoid the mass google de indexing?
@ Steven -
NONE of my WordPress/BANS sites have been deindexed, although one of them was already dropped before I made the switch on it.
Just a thought though… even if you have a WP site with BANS in a folder, if you do not provide compelling and unique content, it will ultimately end with the same result.
Mark
just FYI, i through up a personal blog August 24th. It’s just a blog using WordPress, no BANS or anything.. it made a PR1 already. All the talk abut using WP to build the site THEN applying BANS sure seems to be the way to go!
Google shows about 240 pages indexed!
I don’t know what to believe. I have SeoQuake’s toolbar. Yesterday it told me my blog-only site was ranked 3 (which I was excited about because the site is pretty new). Today all I have showing is a ? instead of a rank.
I know Mark said not to get too hung up the numbers, but with all this jumping around it’s hard to know whether any progress is being made. If higher page rank supposedly brings more traffic, than obviously the numbers are important. That’s the whole point of SEO.
I’m puzzled about how I can go from a 0 to a 3 to a ? in 24 hours…
Take your cursor and click on the ?
All will be revealed.
@ Alice –
There are really only a few numbers I EVER pay attention to, the rest are just “Indicators” that I look at.
PR is a great “At a glance” number to know how Google sees your site, but dont ever place much value on it!
The bottom line are pageviews, visitors, and earnings.
Mark
@Bill, that’s what I did, and the ? kept reappearing! But now that some time has passed, I got a 3 where the ? had been. Yay! I’d read somewhere that if you over-use the rank check tools Google can cut you off. Maybe that’s what happened. Oh well, I’m happy now!
@Mark, I agree that things like earnings are more important than page rank, but I’m thinking of PR as more of an indicator that G might be about to squash a site. Maybe that’s not how it works though, I really don’t know. If your sites continue to be low- or no-ranked, isn’t it more likely that G will de-index them?
But its funny how many money-making, high traffic sites have low ranks. I have one that amazes me. Its ranked 0, although at one time it had been ranked a 2. Lots of traffic and makes good money. I worry that in spite of this being a successful site from my perspective and from the many buyers who’ve shopped there, G will decide they know better and decide to de-index it or something. I’ve regularly added content to it, although I haven’t converted it to a WP/BANS site yet. I don’t know what the problem is!
I have been waiting for the new PageRank update, mostly because I expected my sites would increase in PR but I was slapped down instead.
Not sure what happened but I guess I need to rethink a few things before Google puts my PR into the negatives.
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