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Can a Plugin Leave Tell-Tale Footprints? | Niche Store Builder — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:29:04 +0000

[...] way to remove them, and others swear its just a case of being paranoid or wearing a tin-foil hat (I have one of those!) and is a waste of time.So the question is… Can a Plugin leave a trail that may hurt you? (I [...]

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By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:17:35 +0000

@Richie - Been there and tried it (And another one) last year Richie... Does it work to make your content unique? Yes. Is it something you want to do? Probably Not! In effect, you would be showing search engines one thing (The uniquifier java hexidecimal code) and users another thing (The actual page content) which is probably the number #1 bad thing for search engines.

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By: Tyrelle

Tyrelle — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 03:09:39 +0000

That was actually a quote from the post. I actually do not use duplicate content for content on my sites at all. I use only original material, custom templates etc. This is by far more work, and yet the reality is that duplicate content does not necessarily mean anything negative in a ton of instances out there. I just feel that it serves my approach better. As far as this post refers to keeping all of one's sites not in one traceable end point, I would venture to say that it would be a really good reason for big G to zap a bunch of dupe content sites that one entity owned if a manual review were to discover them. This is yet another reason why I put in the extra effort to use only original content.

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By: Richie

Richie — Wed, 14 Jul 2010 01:54:02 +0000

@Tyrelle – Could you please tell how your two almost identical sites do in the search engines? Good or bad?
Does both of them rank well in their niches?

@Mark – Please do you know if this plugin is okay to use and if something like that works well for dupe content? – goscript.net/featured-articles/wordpress-uniquefier-plugin.html

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By: Tyrelle

Tyrelle — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:11:42 +0000

It is indeed a slipery slope so to speak, with a huge dose of always questioning one's own actions. I now understand your point and vulnerability definitely adds to the reality of the way things are. I believe that some decent separation is in order even for the honest affiliates due to these vulnerabilities. This is to avoid the potential of loosing all those eggs we spend so much time on. Definitely food for thought.

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By: Mark Hansen

Mark Hansen — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:00:18 +0000

@Tyrelle - Welcome in Tyrelle... My point in this article is that one of the few common factors I found, was myself, or information related to me. (Domain name registrar, Adsense account, WMT account, Analytics, etc) The sites of mine that were effected were all 100% unique content, written by me and my own knowledge and spin of the general markets they were in. 1 of the sites was less than 3 months old and I (ie: Me) was the ONLY common factor. Other sites under separate owner accounts, GWT etc, were not affected. I agree completely about nothing being wrong with one person or business owning several sites... but if they ever get anything questioned on any site, the Google manual reviewers only need to look at every other related site you own (GWT, Adsense Properties, Analytics properties, Common Registrar ownership, etc) to burn the entire network to the ground, on the "Opinion" of the manual reviewer. If you ever read the Google Webmaster Bionic posters comments at the google webmaster help forums.. you know that ANYTHING with an affiliate or adsense link, instantly gets looked at differently, in a much more critical scope. Mark

Reply - @Tyrelle<\/a> - Welcome in Tyrelle... \r\n\r\nMy point in this article is that one of the few common factors I found, was myself, or information related to me. (Domain name registrar, Adsense account, WMT account, Analytics, etc)\r\n\r\nThe sites of mine that were effected were all 100% unique content, written by me and my own knowledge and spin of the general markets they were in. 1 of the sites was less than 3 months old and I (ie: Me) was the ONLY common factor. Other sites under separate owner accounts, GWT etc, were not affected.\r\n\r\nI agree completely about nothing being wrong with one person or business owning several sites... but if they ever get anything questioned on any site, the Google manual reviewers only need to look at every other related site you own (GWT, Adsense Properties, Analytics properties, Common Registrar ownership, etc) to burn the entire network to the ground, on the \"Opinion\" of the manual reviewer.\r\n\r\nIf you ever read the Google Webmaster Bionic posters comments at the google webmaster help forums.. you know that ANYTHING with an affiliate or adsense link, instantly gets looked at differently, in a much more critical scope.\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote

By: Tyrelle

Tyrelle — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:18:32 +0000

I am curious regarding your post here. You are referencing common factors which you have identified as potentially being in direct relation the the drop in SERP rankings for some sites of yours.

My question is what does it matter if you own multiple sites which are monetized or affiliate sites? There is nothing wrong with individuals owning multiple affiliate sites. There is nothing wrong with the sites having decent SERP rankings either.

What seems to be missing here is why the tying together of sites is an issue.

Are you concerned about this because you are using your own sites to backlink one another? Are you concerned about this because you are building duplicate content sites “I have two sites that are Almost Identical with exception to the [mykeywordshere] section of the sites. I’m not kidding”?

I am just curious why the tying trackability of ownership is an issue to the fallout in your SERPs? If no black/grey hat techniques are being implemented. Obvously the dup content and the interlinking is a bit on the grey side, not to say you are doing this. But why to connection to a drop in SERPs merely because you have multiple affiliate sites is the essence of my question.

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By: Mark Hansen

Mark Hansen — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:31:59 +0000

@Sean - Gorg is making news headlines a LOT lately. From the IP/Login/eMail sniffing of the Gorgle Maps car, to privacy, to foreign Gov's demanding information about adwords and adsense... They ARE a utility and the keeper of MOUNTAINS of our online data. They should have just stuck to building the best search engine...

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By: Sean

Sean — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:57:27 +0000

As we talk, I was watching CNBC and they were discussing how monopolies fall - from an investment perspective. Just like IBM and Microsoft have become stagnant. They start to fall when interventions from governments take hold. Even big companies rely too much on Google. http://www.cnbc.com/id/38055381

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By: Richie

Richie — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:42:49 +0000

I agree with Mark, they can use those information to track. Best is to stop using most of the services Google offer: Google Analytics (Use Statcounter, Clicky or any other) Adwords (Use until you get banned and then start using other alternatives) Toolbar (use no toolbar at all) Gmail (Use yahoo or your own domain name's email) Buzz [Heard they are getting greedy and coming up with GoogleMe Social Network] - (Use Facebook instead, ie if you must go social). Same goes for their other services - They already have too much information about people/businesses and use it against them at will. Stick to only monetizing your site with them (Adsense) and do not place much importance on it; knowing that if a GoogleHead becomes jealous of what you earn as an individual - can easily decide to terminate your account. I also believe that setting Google as homepage does not help matters, who knows what those cookies track once you fire up your browser. Just my 2c...

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