Comments on: Mayday Solution #2 – Check Your Backlink Strategy! http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm Learn How to Build and Market Niche Websites Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:32:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: spiritus http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19151 spiritus Mon, 21 Jun 2010 06:28:23 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19151 sorry but I can't ever believe Google will punish or penalise a site for it's backlinks strategy. If it did then there would be unscrupulous webmasters and SEO'ers all over the world building dubious backlinks pointing at their competitor's sites.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19151','spiritus'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19151','spiritus','sorry but I can\'t ever believe Google will punish or penalise a site for it\'s backlinks strategy.\r\n\r\nIf it did then there would be unscrupulous webmasters and SEO\'ers all over the world building dubious backlinks pointing at their competitor\'s sites.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> sorry but I can’t ever believe Google will punish or penalise a site for it’s backlinks strategy.

If it did then there would be unscrupulous webmasters and SEO’ers all over the world building dubious backlinks pointing at their competitor’s sites.

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]]> By: Mark Hansen http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19103 Mark Hansen Fri, 18 Jun 2010 15:18:25 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19103 <a href='#comment-19098' rel="nofollow">@Anand Srinivasan</a> - LOL, I lost my old WMW account info (From 2001) and had to create a new account, but its a top 5 place I visit daily! OK... WHY? Because they can! Its part of the "We don't share our methods, because people will exploit us, thing" Do a BING search for "does Google use whois" - read the graywolf article. (Micheal from SEOMoz, Pubcon, etc) M<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19103','Mark Hansen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19103','Mark Hansen','<a href=\'#comment-19098\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Anand Srinivasan<\/a> - LOL, I lost my old WMW account info (From 2001) and had to create a new account, but its a top 5 place I visit daily!\r\n\r\nOK... WHY? Because they can! Its part of the \"We don\'t share our methods, because people will exploit us, thing\"\r\n\r\nDo a BING search for \"does Google use whois\" - read the graywolf article. (Micheal from SEOMoz, Pubcon, etc)\r\n\r\nM'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Anand Srinivasan – LOL, I lost my old WMW account info (From 2001) and had to create a new account, but its a top 5 place I visit daily!

OK… WHY? Because they can! Its part of the “We don’t share our methods, because people will exploit us, thing”

Do a BING search for “does Google use whois” – read the graywolf article. (Micheal from SEOMoz, Pubcon, etc)

M

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]]> By: Anand Srinivasan http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19098 Anand Srinivasan Fri, 18 Jun 2010 13:16:39 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19098 <a href='#comment-19095' rel="nofollow">@Mark Hansen</a> - Looks possible, Mark. Considering that most (if not all) webmasters have the same WMT account, Adsense account (by rule),etc. on all their accounts, this means either all of my sites are doomed or none of them is.. Question is, why should Google do this? Nowhere is it advocated that one person or entity must hold only one website. There is no reason to penalize someone for this.. PS:Great to see you finally posting on WMW about this ;-)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19098','Anand Srinivasan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19098','Anand Srinivasan','<a href=\'#comment-19095\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Mark Hansen<\/a> - Looks possible, Mark. Considering that most (if not all) webmasters have the same WMT account, Adsense account (by rule),etc. on all their accounts, this means either all of my sites are doomed or none of them is..\r\n\r\nQuestion is, why should Google do this? Nowhere is it advocated that one person or entity must hold only one website. There is no reason to penalize someone for this..\r\n\r\nPS:Great to see you finally posting on WMW about this ;-)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Mark Hansen – Looks possible, Mark. Considering that most (if not all) webmasters have the same WMT account, Adsense account (by rule),etc. on all their accounts, this means either all of my sites are doomed or none of them is..

Question is, why should Google do this? Nowhere is it advocated that one person or entity must hold only one website. There is no reason to penalize someone for this..

PS:Great to see you finally posting on WMW about this ;-)

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]]> By: Mark Hansen http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19095 Mark Hansen Fri, 18 Jun 2010 11:54:23 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19095 <a href='#comment-19092' rel="nofollow">@Anand Srinivasan</a> - I have a running list of common factors on the sites I follow, that were affected Anand. (I follow other sites also, Alexa shows the story) - Same domain registrar? - Same site owner? - Same server? I have a list of common factors on mine... there are some serious similarities. M<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19095','Mark Hansen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19095','Mark Hansen','<a href=\'#comment-19092\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Anand Srinivasan<\/a> - I have a running list of common factors on the sites I follow, that were affected Anand. (I follow other sites also, Alexa shows the story)\r\n\r\n- Same domain registrar?\r\n- Same site owner?\r\n- Same server?\r\n\r\nI have a list of common factors on mine... there are some serious similarities.\r\n\r\nM'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Anand Srinivasan – I have a running list of common factors on the sites I follow, that were affected Anand. (I follow other sites also, Alexa shows the story)

- Same domain registrar?
- Same site owner?
- Same server?

I have a list of common factors on mine… there are some serious similarities.

M

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]]> By: Anand Srinivasan http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19092 Anand Srinivasan Fri, 18 Jun 2010 03:38:39 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19092 I had never put in the Analytics script on them until the crash happened in March. Yes, same WMT and Adsense account. But since then, I have 301d one of the site to become a section of the other website so now they both are technically only one site.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19092','Anand Srinivasan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19092','Anand Srinivasan','I had never put in the Analytics script on them until the crash happened in March. Yes, same WMT and Adsense account. But since then, I have 301d one of the site to become a section of the other website so now they both are technically only one site.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I had never put in the Analytics script on them until the crash happened in March. Yes, same WMT and Adsense account. But since then, I have 301d one of the site to become a section of the other website so now they both are technically only one site.
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]]> By: Mark Hansen http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19081 Mark Hansen Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:30:52 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19081 <a href='#comment-19080' rel="nofollow">@Anand Srinivasan</a> - Blog comments, even though no-followed... are followed by spiders. The ONLY thing they don't do is pass PageRank. Google was the inventor of the nofollow tag... Not to do the whole tin-foil-hat (I have a 3-layer tin hat) thing Anand... but are all the affected sites in the same account with G? - Same Webmaster Tools account? - Same Analytics account? - Same Adwords account? etc...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19081','Mark Hansen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19081','Mark Hansen','<a href=\'#comment-19080\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Anand Srinivasan<\/a> - Blog comments, even though no-followed... are followed by spiders. The ONLY thing they don\'t do is pass PageRank. Google was the inventor of the nofollow tag... \r\n\r\nNot to do the whole tin-foil-hat (I have a 3-layer tin hat) thing Anand... but are all the affected sites in the same account with G?\r\n\r\n- Same Webmaster Tools account?\r\n- Same Analytics account?\r\n- Same Adwords account?\r\n\r\netc...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Anand Srinivasan – Blog comments, even though no-followed… are followed by spiders. The ONLY thing they don’t do is pass PageRank. Google was the inventor of the nofollow tag…

Not to do the whole tin-foil-hat (I have a 3-layer tin hat) thing Anand… but are all the affected sites in the same account with G?

- Same Webmaster Tools account?
- Same Analytics account?
- Same Adwords account?

etc…

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]]> By: Anand Srinivasan http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19080 Anand Srinivasan Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:27:10 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19080 Your findings in this case are not consistent with mine, Mark. The site where I have been the most has only two kinds of links: 1. In-content links from similar websites - A handful of PR6+ links too 2. Blog comments (where I reference the URL against my name) I've never taken part in any of the other methods, though I guess 4-5 Ezinearticles may have that link. Blog comments are discounted since they are all no-followed. And that means the only way my site has got linked is via in-content links. There is no reason why the site should have dropped over 70% of traffic. Another site I have - It's more like a news site. I write real link baiting article once every week and receive several great quality links - I'm talking of PR8+ websites linking to my blog. Since that's a new website, I cannot compare its performance. But I can say that it has not grown since March...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19080','Anand Srinivasan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19080','Anand Srinivasan','Your findings in this case are not consistent with mine, Mark. The site where I have been the most has only two kinds of links:\r\n\r\n1. In-content links from similar websites - A handful of PR6+ links too\r\n2. Blog comments (where I reference the URL against my name)\r\n\r\nI\'ve never taken part in any of the other methods, though I guess 4-5 Ezinearticles may have that link. Blog comments are discounted since they are all no-followed. And that means the only way my site has got linked is via in-content links. There is no reason why the site should have dropped over 70% of traffic. \r\n\r\nAnother site I have - It\'s more like a news site. I write real link baiting article once every week and receive several great quality links - I\'m talking of PR8+ websites linking to my blog. Since that\'s a new website, I cannot compare its performance. But I can say that it has not grown since March...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Your findings in this case are not consistent with mine, Mark. The site where I have been the most has only two kinds of links:

1. In-content links from similar websites – A handful of PR6+ links too
2. Blog comments (where I reference the URL against my name)

I’ve never taken part in any of the other methods, though I guess 4-5 Ezinearticles may have that link. Blog comments are discounted since they are all no-followed. And that means the only way my site has got linked is via in-content links. There is no reason why the site should have dropped over 70% of traffic.

Another site I have – It’s more like a news site. I write real link baiting article once every week and receive several great quality links – I’m talking of PR8+ websites linking to my blog. Since that’s a new website, I cannot compare its performance. But I can say that it has not grown since March…

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]]> By: Dominic http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19079 Dominic Thu, 17 Jun 2010 18:15:40 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19079 Hi Mark, Thanks for reminding me about Blog Carnivals. I haven't used those for a few years.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19079','Dominic'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19079','Dominic','Hi Mark,\r\nThanks for reminding me about Blog Carnivals. I haven\'t used those for a few years.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hi Mark,
Thanks for reminding me about Blog Carnivals. I haven’t used those for a few years.
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]]> By: Mark Hansen http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19076 Mark Hansen Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:58:12 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19076 <a href='#comment-19075' rel="nofollow">@Neil</a> - I didn't mention recip in this particular article Neil, but as long as the site is related to yours, I cannot see a reciprocal link hurting in ANY way! (Unless your site is unrelated to the source of the link) It may not be as powerful as a one-way, in-content, in-context, link... but if it's from a similar niche with a similar audience, and good for visitors, it won't hurt! The reason reciprocal links got such a bad rap... was because people put up link-swap pages on their pages. You know... "Link to me, and I will Link to you" kind of pages. Then they just swapped with ANYONE willing to swap. If you treat your links with editorial care (review each, make it worthy) they carry GREAT weight! Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19076','Mark Hansen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19076','Mark Hansen','<a href=\'#comment-19075\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Neil<\/a> - I didn\'t mention recip in this particular article Neil, but as long as the site is related to yours, I cannot see a reciprocal link hurting in ANY way! (Unless your site is unrelated to the source of the link)\r\n\r\nIt may not be as powerful as a one-way, in-content, in-context, link... but if it\'s from a similar niche with a similar audience, and good for visitors, it won\'t hurt!\r\n\r\nThe reason reciprocal links got such a bad rap... was because people put up link-swap pages on their pages. You know... \"Link to me, and I will Link to you\" kind of pages. Then they just swapped with ANYONE willing to swap.\r\n\r\nIf you treat your links with editorial care (review each, make it worthy) they carry GREAT weight!\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Neil – I didn’t mention recip in this particular article Neil, but as long as the site is related to yours, I cannot see a reciprocal link hurting in ANY way! (Unless your site is unrelated to the source of the link)

It may not be as powerful as a one-way, in-content, in-context, link… but if it’s from a similar niche with a similar audience, and good for visitors, it won’t hurt!

The reason reciprocal links got such a bad rap… was because people put up link-swap pages on their pages. You know… “Link to me, and I will Link to you” kind of pages. Then they just swapped with ANYONE willing to swap.

If you treat your links with editorial care (review each, make it worthy) they carry GREAT weight!

Mark

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]]> By: Neil http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/mayday-solution-2-check-your-backlink-strategy.htm#comment-19075 Neil Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:47:40 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=2398#comment-19075 Hi Mark, Thanks for an interesting article. One question: You wrote - Ask Your Visitors to Link Back to You! (Serious, put it in their faces and ASK!) The "SEO expert" view that i have been given is that reciprocal links equal out, and therefore serve no purpose... I questioned the logic in this, but they insist it is the case. You suggest a reciprocal approach. Can you back this up with some reasoning? Thanks Neil<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19075','Neil'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19075','Neil','Hi Mark,\r\n\r\nThanks for an interesting article.\r\n\r\nOne question:\r\n\r\nYou wrote - Ask Your Visitors to Link Back to You! \r\n(Serious, put it in their faces and ASK!)\r\n\r\nThe \"SEO expert\" view that i have been given is that reciprocal links equal out, and therefore serve no purpose...\r\n\r\nI questioned the logic in this, but they insist it is the case.\r\n\r\nYou suggest a reciprocal approach. Can you back this up with some reasoning?\r\n\r\nThanks\r\nNeil'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hi Mark,

Thanks for an interesting article.

One question:

You wrote – Ask Your Visitors to Link Back to You!
(Serious, put it in their faces and ASK!)

The “SEO expert” view that i have been given is that reciprocal links equal out, and therefore serve no purpose…

I questioned the logic in this, but they insist it is the case.

You suggest a reciprocal approach. Can you back this up with some reasoning?

Thanks
Neil

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