Comments on: Moving BANS Off the Root of the Domain http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm Learn How to Build and Market Niche Websites Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:44:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Jayhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13733 Jay Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:24:56 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-13733 Video was very helpful and I was thinking of doing this but it does involve some work plus I already have blogs in a blog folder on my sites so to switch both would probably not be worth it.Going forward I'll do the shop folder for new sites.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13733','Jay'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13733','Jay','Video was very helpful and I was thinking of doing this but it does involve some work plus I already have blogs in a blog folder on my sites so to switch both would probably not be worth it. \r\n\r\nGoing forward I\'ll do the shop folder for new sites.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Video was very helpful and I was thinking of doing this but it does involve some work plus I already have blogs in a blog folder on my sites so to switch both would probably not be worth it.

Going forward I’ll do the shop folder for new sites.

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]]> By: Onahttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13473 Ona Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:41:57 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-13473 Mark,I figured out the problem. I just needed to update the permissions in the shop folder.Thanks,Ona<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13473','Ona'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13473','Ona','Mark,\r\n\r\nI figured out the problem. I just needed to update the permissions in the shop folder.\r\n\r\nThanks,\r\n\r\nOna'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mark,

I figured out the problem. I just needed to update the permissions in the shop folder.

Thanks,

Ona

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]]> By: Onahttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-13470 Ona Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:24:03 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-13470 Hi Mark,I followed the instructions in video #1 and now get the following message when I try to access the www.mydomain.com/shop403 ForbiddenYou don't have permission to access /shop on this server.Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.Please advise.Thank you.Ona<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('13470','Ona'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('13470','Ona','Hi Mark,\r\n\r\nI followed the instructions in video #1 and now get the following message when I try to access the www.mydomain.com\/shop\r\n\r\n403 Forbidden\r\n\r\nYou don\'t have permission to access \/shop on this server.\r\n\r\nAdditionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. \r\n\r\nPlease advise.\r\n\r\nThank you.\r\n\r\nOna'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Hi Mark,

I followed the instructions in video #1 and now get the following message when I try to access the http://www.mydomain.com/shop

403 Forbidden

You don’t have permission to access /shop on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

Please advise.

Thank you.

Ona

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]]> By: Billhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12915 Bill Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:34:30 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-12915 I just did a site:mysite.com to find my indexed pages.I then went one by one through the links to see if they needed redirecting. I moved all content pages to a Wordpress "post" instead and edited the permalink to match the old content page URL...that way they did not need redirecting.In the case of the store pages....it usually went like this...if the indexed URL is www.mysite.com/widget then you cut and paste that URL into the "first" URL box....then paste it again into the redirect TO URL box but change it to www.mysite.com/shop/widgetThe plugin has a lot of other features that aren't necessary...to just redirect it was setup for me right out of the box just fine.Works perfect.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12915','Bill'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12915','Bill','I just did a site:mysite.com to find my indexed pages.\r\n\r\nI then went one by one through the links to see if they needed redirecting. I moved all content pages to a Wordpress \"post\" instead and edited the permalink to match the old content page URL...that way they did not need redirecting.\r\n\r\nIn the case of the store pages....it usually went like this...if the indexed URL is www.mysite.com\/widget then you cut and paste that URL into the \"first\" URL box....then paste it again into the redirect TO URL box but change it to www.mysite.com\/shop\/widget\r\n\r\nThe plugin has a lot of other features that aren\'t necessary...to just redirect it was setup for me right out of the box just fine.\r\n\r\nWorks perfect.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I just did a site:mysite.com to find my indexed pages.

I then went one by one through the links to see if they needed redirecting. I moved all content pages to a WordPress “post” instead and edited the permalink to match the old content page URL…that way they did not need redirecting.

In the case of the store pages….it usually went like this…if the indexed URL is http://www.mysite.com/widget then you cut and paste that URL into the “first” URL box….then paste it again into the redirect TO URL box but change it to http://www.mysite.com/shop/widget

The plugin has a lot of other features that aren’t necessary…to just redirect it was setup for me right out of the box just fine.

Works perfect.

Reply – http://www.mysite.com\/widget then you cut and paste that URL into the \"first\" URL box….then paste it again into the redirect TO URL box but change it to http://www.mysite.com\/shop\/widget\r\n\r\nThe plugin has a lot of other features that aren\’t necessary…to just redirect it was setup for me right out of the box just fine.\r\n\r\nWorks perfect.’); return false;”>Quote
]]> By: Rochellehttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12914 Rochelle Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:18:31 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-12914 I just installed the redirect plugin but have to admit I am clueless as to what to do with it. Is there a way it can simply 'know' all the pages that need to be redirected? The website for this plugin looks very helpful but I am still not understanding it. What do I do with this plugin?Rochelle<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12914','Rochelle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12914','Rochelle','I just installed the redirect plugin but have to admit I am clueless as to what to do with it. Is there a way it can simply \'know\' all the pages that need to be redirected? The website for this plugin looks very helpful but I am still not understanding it. What do I do with this plugin?\r\n\r\nRochelle'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I just installed the redirect plugin but have to admit I am clueless as to what to do with it. Is there a way it can simply ‘know’ all the pages that need to be redirected? The website for this plugin looks very helpful but I am still not understanding it. What do I do with this plugin?

Rochelle

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]]> By: Billhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12913 Bill Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:58:11 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-12913 If you edit your Wordpress permalinks you have no need to redirect the indexed pages...they will resolve right to the WP posts anyways.That's what I did at least.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12913','Bill'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12913','Bill','If you edit your Wordpress permalinks you have no need to redirect the indexed pages...they will resolve right to the WP posts anyways.\r\n\r\nThat\'s what I did at least.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> If you edit your WordPress permalinks you have no need to redirect the indexed pages…they will resolve right to the WP posts anyways.

That’s what I did at least.

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]]> By: Markhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12912 Mark Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:49:48 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-12912 I know about the nerd thing! LOL Its much more a case of curiousity than anything!@ Rochelle - it lookos like most of the content pages are directly on the root, so they would bneed to be manually redirected. Incidentally, ANY stores I have moved, I have converted the content pages to actual blog posts and 301'd through the plugin. NONE of my BANS/Blog sites use the content pages in bans at all...Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12912','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12912','Mark','I know about the nerd thing! LOL Its much more a case of curiousity than anything! \r\n\r\n@ Rochelle - it lookos like most of the content pages are directly on the root, so they would bneed to be manually redirected. Incidentally, ANY stores I have moved, I have converted the content pages to actual blog posts and 301\'d through the plugin. NONE of my BANS\/Blog sites use the content pages in bans at all...\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I know about the nerd thing! LOL Its much more a case of curiousity than anything!

@ Rochelle – it lookos like most of the content pages are directly on the root, so they would bneed to be manually redirected. Incidentally, ANY stores I have moved, I have converted the content pages to actual blog posts and 301′d through the plugin. NONE of my BANS/Blog sites use the content pages in bans at all…

Mark

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]]> By: Rochellehttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12910 Rochelle Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:20:34 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-12910 @Mark,Glad I could turn on your thinking cap : )I see where store pages are in the virtual 'Store' directory, but what about content pages?Rochelle<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12910','Rochelle'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12910','Rochelle','@Mark,\r\n\r\nGlad I could turn on your thinking cap : )\r\n\r\nI see where store pages are in the virtual \'Store\' directory, but what about content pages?\r\n\r\nRochelle'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Mark,

Glad I could turn on your thinking cap : )

I see where store pages are in the virtual ‘Store’ directory, but what about content pages?

Rochelle

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]]> By: Billhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12908 Bill Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:49:09 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-12908 Nerd.;-)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12908','Bill'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12908','Bill','Nerd.\r\n\r\n;-)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Nerd.

;-)

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]]> By: Markhttp://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12907 Mark Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:15:16 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/moving-bans-off-the-root-of-the-domain.htm#comment-12907 @ Rochelle -Sorry I didnt get the post approved in time for the "Whole" conversation to be read earlier... The comment contained a link, therefore it got queued up for manual approval.It looks like you walked through several experiments to move it off the root and do a 301 in one shot, but like you have found... you cant.If you 301 all visits to the main domain, it will never be indexed and instead pass everything to the new shop/ or whatever folder you put BANS into.Unfortunately, there really is no easy way... except one page at a time. The redirect plugin for WP is priceless in cases like this... but if you have a site that is doing well and is deeply indexed (hundreds of pages, earning $50+ per day) its a hrd call to move it off the root.Thinking about it as I am typing (which is dangerous) MOST stores are actually in a subfolder already... (I hate to confuse everyone with this, please bear with me) the ONLY page on the root of a domain is you main index or home page. ALL other pages are in the virtual folder name, you named your store!For instance, if you look at one of my deindexed sites: <a href="http://www.carolinacloseout.com/" rel=nofollow rel="nofollow">Carolina Closeouts</a> ONLY the main page is on the root! (Even though all site files are on the root of the domain)ALL store pages are contained in a virtual /Store/ directory, as seen when you hover over the links in the left menu. This name, "Store" is defined in the very top content page on the site and is named whatever you chose to name your own.In this case, I could easily move the BANS to a /shop/ or even /store/ folder, then just use the htaccess to 301 the original /Store/ (Yes, it is case sensitive) to the new folder.Time to do a bit of experimenting myself on this... it may actually be easier!ROchelle - thank you for turning on my thinking cap!Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12907','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12907','Mark','@ Rochelle - \r\n\r\nSorry I didnt get the post approved in time for the \"Whole\" conversation to be read earlier... The comment contained a link, therefore it got queued up for manual approval.\r\n\r\nIt looks like you walked through several experiments to move it off the root and do a 301 in one shot, but like you have found... you cant.\r\n\r\nIf you 301 all visits to the main domain, it will never be indexed and instead pass everything to the new shop\/ or whatever folder you put BANS into.\r\n\r\nUnfortunately, there really is no easy way... except one page at a time. The redirect plugin for WP is priceless in cases like this... but if you have a site that is doing well and is deeply indexed (hundreds of pages, earning $50+ per day) its a hrd call to move it off the root.\r\n\r\nThinking about it as I am typing (which is dangerous) MOST stores are actually in a subfolder already... (I hate to confuse everyone with this, please bear with me) the ONLY page on the root of a domain is you main index or home page. ALL other pages are in the virtual folder name, you named your store!\r\n\r\nFor instance, if you look at one of my deindexed sites: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.carolinacloseout.com\/\" rel=nofollow rel=\"nofollow\">Carolina Closeouts<\/a> ONLY the main page is on the root! (Even though all site files are on the root of the domain)\r\n\r\nALL store pages are contained in a virtual \/Store\/ directory, as seen when you hover over the links in the left menu. This name, \"Store\" is defined in the very top content page on the site and is named whatever you chose to name your own.\r\n\r\nIn this case, I could easily move the BANS to a \/shop\/ or even \/store\/ folder, then just use the htaccess to 301 the original \/Store\/ (Yes, it is case sensitive) to the new folder.\r\n\r\nTime to do a bit of experimenting myself on this... it may actually be easier!\r\n\r\nROchelle - thank you for turning on my thinking cap!\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Rochelle –

Sorry I didnt get the post approved in time for the “Whole” conversation to be read earlier… The comment contained a link, therefore it got queued up for manual approval.

It looks like you walked through several experiments to move it off the root and do a 301 in one shot, but like you have found… you cant.

If you 301 all visits to the main domain, it will never be indexed and instead pass everything to the new shop/ or whatever folder you put BANS into.

Unfortunately, there really is no easy way… except one page at a time. The redirect plugin for WP is priceless in cases like this… but if you have a site that is doing well and is deeply indexed (hundreds of pages, earning $50+ per day) its a hrd call to move it off the root.

Thinking about it as I am typing (which is dangerous) MOST stores are actually in a subfolder already… (I hate to confuse everyone with this, please bear with me) the ONLY page on the root of a domain is you main index or home page. ALL other pages are in the virtual folder name, you named your store!

For instance, if you look at one of my deindexed sites: Carolina Closeouts ONLY the main page is on the root! (Even though all site files are on the root of the domain)

ALL store pages are contained in a virtual /Store/ directory, as seen when you hover over the links in the left menu. This name, “Store” is defined in the very top content page on the site and is named whatever you chose to name your own.

In this case, I could easily move the BANS to a /shop/ or even /store/ folder, then just use the htaccess to 301 the original /Store/ (Yes, it is case sensitive) to the new folder.

Time to do a bit of experimenting myself on this… it may actually be easier!

ROchelle – thank you for turning on my thinking cap!

Mark

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