Comments on: Quality Click Pricing Comes to ePN for eBay Affiliates http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm Learn How to Build and Market Niche Websites Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:32:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: dan http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-19555 dan Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:44:05 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-19555 Quality Click Pricing my butt ebay sicks you get clicks and no income generate.I make cash from adsense and will stick with adsense. Take ebay 218 clicks $18.00 earned compare to adsense 219 clicks you would generate more income depends on type but could easy be $100.00 a day!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('19555','dan'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('19555','dan','Quality Click Pricing my butt ebay sicks you get clicks and no income generate.I make cash from adsense and will stick with adsense.\r\n\r\nTake ebay 218 clicks $18.00 earned compare to adsense 219 clicks you would generate more income depends on type but could easy be $100.00 a day!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Quality Click Pricing my butt ebay sicks you get clicks and no income generate.I make cash from adsense and will stick with adsense.

Take ebay 218 clicks $18.00 earned compare to adsense 219 clicks you would generate more income depends on type but could easy be $100.00 a day!

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]]> By: Tom http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-17005 Tom Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:13:41 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-17005 If you think you can convince me this new payout system is a good thing for affiliates, let me get a fan to remove the smoke from my butt. eBay does nothing anymore to improve their affiliates revenue. They do it to improve their own. It started when they left CJ. They saved money. Then they changed the ACRU payouts, based on the "quality" of the new member - and I won't even go into the formula that involved - and they saved money. Now, they pay us for click quality on an algo that they won't reveal and that changes daily. No way to verify the numbers other than to "trust" them. They'll save money again by using us all as a cheaper form than Adsense advertising. Trying to convince us that because it took 100 clicks to make a sale, our clicks are worth less than someone who needed only 1. BS. They still made the sale and got the fees. I get less because I didn't sell the damn thing for them with less clicks? An affiliates job is to get them in the door, not hold their hand to the cash register. eBay was good while it lasted. I'll be driving traffic, but it will be to websites that offer the same products I niche and who pay me a set percentage of every sale they make from the traffic I send them, without diluting the numbers to their benefit. More companies are providing product feeds. It isn't that difficult to convert from eBay to those others. If anyone thinks they are going to do better now, good luck. If you do, eBay will surely notice and change that imaginary algo to ensure you don't continue.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('17005','Tom'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('17005','Tom','If you think you can convince me this new payout system is a good thing for affiliates, let me get a fan to remove the smoke from my butt. eBay does nothing anymore to improve their affiliates revenue. They do it to improve their own. It started when they left CJ. They saved money. Then they changed the ACRU payouts, based on the \"quality\" of the new member - and I won\'t even go into the formula that involved - and they saved money. Now, they pay us for click quality on an algo that they won\'t reveal and that changes daily. No way to verify the numbers other than to \"trust\" them. They\'ll save money again by using us all as a cheaper form than Adsense advertising. Trying to convince us that because it took 100 clicks to make a sale, our clicks are worth less than someone who needed only 1. BS. They still made the sale and got the fees. I get less because I didn\'t sell the damn thing for them with less clicks? An affiliates job is to get them in the door, not hold their hand to the cash register.\r\n\r\neBay was good while it lasted. I\'ll be driving traffic, but it will be to websites that offer the same products I niche and who pay me a set percentage of every sale they make from the traffic I send them, without diluting the numbers to their benefit.\r\n\r\nMore companies are providing product feeds. It isn\'t that difficult to convert from eBay to those others.\r\n\r\nIf anyone thinks they are going to do better now, good luck. If you do, eBay will surely notice and change that imaginary algo to ensure you don\'t continue.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> If you think you can convince me this new payout system is a good thing for affiliates, let me get a fan to remove the smoke from my butt. eBay does nothing anymore to improve their affiliates revenue. They do it to improve their own. It started when they left CJ. They saved money. Then they changed the ACRU payouts, based on the “quality” of the new member – and I won’t even go into the formula that involved – and they saved money. Now, they pay us for click quality on an algo that they won’t reveal and that changes daily. No way to verify the numbers other than to “trust” them. They’ll save money again by using us all as a cheaper form than Adsense advertising. Trying to convince us that because it took 100 clicks to make a sale, our clicks are worth less than someone who needed only 1. BS. They still made the sale and got the fees. I get less because I didn’t sell the damn thing for them with less clicks? An affiliates job is to get them in the door, not hold their hand to the cash register.

eBay was good while it lasted. I’ll be driving traffic, but it will be to websites that offer the same products I niche and who pay me a set percentage of every sale they make from the traffic I send them, without diluting the numbers to their benefit.

More companies are providing product feeds. It isn’t that difficult to convert from eBay to those others.

If anyone thinks they are going to do better now, good luck. If you do, eBay will surely notice and change that imaginary algo to ensure you don’t continue.

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]]> By: tom http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-16996 tom Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:15:21 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-16996 Quality Click Pricing is designed to do one thing only - allow ebay to pay affiliates less and make more for themselves. Why? Because they can and there is nothing you can do about it as an affiliate. Example, I earned 92.00 for sept. Quality Click Pricing predicts my payment would be 32.00 for the same traffic. What is wrong with that? The 92.00 is based on actual earnings for auctions won by people who come to ebay through my links. Why is it ok for ebay to now claim that traffic is worth only 32.00? I will be removing every ebay auction link I have and replacing them with something else. Probably aff links from a source who sells something from my site's niche but anything is better then dealing with a company who just wants me to be happy being screwed. ebay, you suck!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16996','tom'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16996','tom','Quality Click Pricing is designed to do one thing only - allow ebay to pay affiliates less and make more for themselves. Why? Because they can and there is nothing you can do about it as an affiliate. Example, I earned 92.00 for sept. Quality Click Pricing predicts my payment would be 32.00 for the same traffic. What is wrong with that? The 92.00 is based on actual earnings for auctions won by people who come to ebay through my links. Why is it ok for ebay to now claim that traffic is worth only 32.00? I will be removing every ebay auction link I have and replacing them with something else. Probably aff links from a source who sells something from my site\'s niche but anything is better then dealing with a company who just wants me to be happy being screwed. ebay, you suck!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Quality Click Pricing is designed to do one thing only – allow ebay to pay affiliates less and make more for themselves. Why? Because they can and there is nothing you can do about it as an affiliate. Example, I earned 92.00 for sept. Quality Click Pricing predicts my payment would be 32.00 for the same traffic. What is wrong with that? The 92.00 is based on actual earnings for auctions won by people who come to ebay through my links. Why is it ok for ebay to now claim that traffic is worth only 32.00? I will be removing every ebay auction link I have and replacing them with something else. Probably aff links from a source who sells something from my site’s niche but anything is better then dealing with a company who just wants me to be happy being screwed. ebay, you suck!
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]]> By: Chris Peterson http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-16778 Chris Peterson Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:02:08 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-16778 I am with Rochelle & Mark. Diversification & significantly looking for newer opportunities is the key! Leme know if you find any.......& so will I. Sharing is good.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16778','Chris Peterson'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16778','Chris Peterson','I am with Rochelle & Mark. Diversification & significantly looking for newer opportunities is the key! Leme know if you find any.......& so will I. Sharing is good.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I am with Rochelle & Mark. Diversification & significantly looking for newer opportunities is the key! Leme know if you find any…….& so will I. Sharing is good.
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]]> By: affiliate marketer http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-16774 affiliate marketer Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:16:12 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-16774 hey mark, yeah it's that mark, still reading ;) I reckon I get where you are coming from but... I don't like guessing, i like knowing when I make a company X dollars then I earn Y amount. Anything else is just hocus pocus in my opinion and I'll spend my time and energy elsewhere and will suggest others do also. seriously, there proposition is send us your traffic and we'll make some magic formula that pays you but we will never tell you how it works, just trust us. No thanks.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16774','affiliate marketer'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16774','affiliate marketer','hey mark, yeah it\'s that mark, still reading ;)\r\n\r\nI reckon I get where you are coming from but...\r\n\r\nI don\'t like guessing, i like knowing when I make a company X dollars then I earn Y amount. Anything else is just hocus pocus in my opinion and I\'ll spend my time and energy elsewhere and will suggest others do also.\r\n\r\nseriously, there proposition is send us your traffic and we\'ll make some magic formula that pays you but we will never tell you how it works, just trust us. No thanks.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> hey mark, yeah it’s that mark, still reading ;)

I reckon I get where you are coming from but…

I don’t like guessing, i like knowing when I make a company X dollars then I earn Y amount. Anything else is just hocus pocus in my opinion and I’ll spend my time and energy elsewhere and will suggest others do also.

seriously, there proposition is send us your traffic and we’ll make some magic formula that pays you but we will never tell you how it works, just trust us. No thanks.

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]]> By: Mark http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-16763 Mark Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:29:28 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-16763 @ Affiliate Marketer - Is that Mark? Good to see you again... Just to clarify, the main reason I think these changes will be good, really depends on the site building model... and how the sites are built. The way we have building them for the past few months, it should be a benefit, since they already fall into the way eBay suggests in their new FAQ. For myself - I have been building nothing but review type sites showing very limited products from the eBay system... so the visitor will come > learn > and have a buy it now item to purchase. This will reduce the amount of lower quality clicks and ultimately (hopefully) increase the quality score. For anyone who has built browse type sites, where the traffic is non specific or too wide of a topic, I expect they may see a reduced quality in theri site traffic. My take on the entire thing is that we need to have the train of thought of a sniper when it comes to our actual sales landing pages. Targeted Buyers (Not tire kickers) > One Click > One Purchase Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16763','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16763','Mark','@ Affiliate Marketer -\r\n\r\nIs that Mark? Good to see you again... Just to clarify, the main reason I think these changes will be good, really depends on the site building model... and how the sites are built. The way we have building them for the past few months, it should be a benefit, since they already fall into the way eBay suggests in their new FAQ.\r\n\r\nFor myself - I have been building nothing but review type sites showing very limited products from the eBay system... so the visitor will come > learn > and have a buy it now item to purchase. This will reduce the amount of lower quality clicks and ultimately (hopefully) increase the quality score.\r\n\r\nFor anyone who has built browse type sites, where the traffic is non specific or too wide of a topic, I expect they may see a reduced quality in theri site traffic.\r\n\r\nMy take on the entire thing is that we need to have the train of thought of a sniper when it comes to our actual sales landing pages.\r\n\r\nTargeted Buyers (Not tire kickers) > One Click > One Purchase\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Affiliate Marketer -

Is that Mark? Good to see you again… Just to clarify, the main reason I think these changes will be good, really depends on the site building model… and how the sites are built. The way we have building them for the past few months, it should be a benefit, since they already fall into the way eBay suggests in their new FAQ.

For myself – I have been building nothing but review type sites showing very limited products from the eBay system… so the visitor will come > learn > and have a buy it now item to purchase. This will reduce the amount of lower quality clicks and ultimately (hopefully) increase the quality score.

For anyone who has built browse type sites, where the traffic is non specific or too wide of a topic, I expect they may see a reduced quality in theri site traffic.

My take on the entire thing is that we need to have the train of thought of a sniper when it comes to our actual sales landing pages.

Targeted Buyers (Not tire kickers) > One Click > One Purchase

Mark

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]]> By: Mark http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-16762 Mark Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:46:56 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-16762 @ Carolina - Only the shadow knows... :-) I have sites that range all the way from .04 epc to $5.28 epc .04 epc is my highest total dollar amount of earning site - 45.28 is my crappiest site, thinnest content, etc... BUT still sends clicks and buyers. I think we will have to wait this one out and see what happens. Fortunately in a week or so, (Sept 1) we will have side by side reports to look t and compare.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16762','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16762','Mark','@ Carolina - \r\n\r\nOnly the shadow knows... :-)\r\n\r\nI have sites that range all the way from .04 epc to $5.28 epc\r\n\r\n.04 epc is my highest total dollar amount of earning site - 45.28 is my crappiest site, thinnest content, etc... BUT still sends clicks and buyers.\r\n\r\nI think we will have to wait this one out and see what happens.\r\n\r\nFortunately in a week or so, (Sept 1) we will have side by side reports to look t and compare.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Carolina –

Only the shadow knows… :-)

I have sites that range all the way from .04 epc to $5.28 epc

.04 epc is my highest total dollar amount of earning site – 45.28 is my crappiest site, thinnest content, etc… BUT still sends clicks and buyers.

I think we will have to wait this one out and see what happens.

Fortunately in a week or so, (Sept 1) we will have side by side reports to look t and compare.

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]]> By: bisnis internet http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-16760 bisnis internet Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:11:41 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-16760 Is this like quality click pricing like google adsense? Thanks David<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16760','bisnis internet'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16760','bisnis internet','Is this like quality click pricing like google adsense?\r\n\r\nThanks\r\n\r\nDavid'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Is this like quality click pricing like google adsense?

Thanks

David

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]]> By: Caroline http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-16759 Caroline Wed, 19 Aug 2009 21:59:41 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-16759 Dumb question: what is considered a good daily EPC number? Mine jumps around (which I assume is normal). Sometimes it is 0.16, sometimes 0.27. Are those pretty sucky numbers? :) Caro<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16759','Caroline'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16759','Caroline','Dumb question: what is considered a good daily EPC number? Mine jumps around (which I assume is normal). Sometimes it is 0.16, sometimes 0.27. Are those pretty sucky numbers? :)\r\n\r\nCaro'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Dumb question: what is considered a good daily EPC number? Mine jumps around (which I assume is normal). Sometimes it is 0.16, sometimes 0.27. Are those pretty sucky numbers? :)

Caro

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]]> By: Dave Pickett http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/quality-click-pricing-comes-to-epn-for-ebay-affiliates.htm#comment-16758 Dave Pickett Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:11:16 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/?p=971#comment-16758 I'm not sure if this is a bad thing or not. I understand the benefits to Ebay, maximising revenue without expanding their infrastructure makes perfect sense. However as a BANS user I was concerned with the statement... "Although we do not require an impression pixel with every ad at this time, impression pixels are the best way to track your impressions and determine your overall click through rate." Does anyone know how will this impact BANS and PHPbay when they introduce impression pixels to all ads?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('16758','Dave Pickett'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('16758','Dave Pickett','I\'m not sure if this is a bad thing or not. I understand the benefits to Ebay, maximising revenue without expanding their infrastructure makes perfect sense. However as a BANS user I was concerned with the statement...\r\n\r\n\"Although we do not require an impression pixel with every ad at this time, impression pixels are\r\nthe best way to track your impressions and determine your overall click through rate.\"\r\n\r\nDoes anyone know how will this impact BANS and PHPbay when they introduce impression pixels to all ads?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’m not sure if this is a bad thing or not. I understand the benefits to Ebay, maximising revenue without expanding their infrastructure makes perfect sense. However as a BANS user I was concerned with the statement…

“Although we do not require an impression pixel with every ad at this time, impression pixels are
the best way to track your impressions and determine your overall click through rate.”

Does anyone know how will this impact BANS and PHPbay when they introduce impression pixels to all ads?

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