Comments on: Thin Affiliate Websites are Dead http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm Learn How to Build and Market Niche Websites Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:23:09 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jake http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15586 Jake Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:54:48 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-15586 @ Andrew - if BANS is dead, then i'm getting $$ from the grave! I had my best month ever in December and i've already TOPPED that this month!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15586','Jake'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15586','Jake','@ Andrew - if BANS is dead, then i\'m getting $$ from the grave! I had my best month ever in December and i\'ve already TOPPED that this month!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Andrew – if BANS is dead, then i’m getting $$ from the grave! I had my best month ever in December and i’ve already TOPPED that this month!
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]]> By: Mark http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15579 Mark Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:55:03 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-15579 @ Andrew - I feel your pain man... BUT... BANS sites are far from being dead, and many have 4-5 figure checks coming in every month proving so!! Its ALL about the type of site you build... If you choose to point and click a BANS, or ANY kind of site out of the box - you wont get far. If, on the other hand, you focus on building a resource site, that just so happens to have BANS or some other way of showing a few listings from eBay or Amazon etc, they do extremely well. Garbage In = Garbage Results Out. Quality In = Quality Results Out Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15579','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15579','Mark','@ Andrew - \r\n\r\nI feel your pain man... BUT... BANS sites are far from being dead, and many have 4-5 figure checks coming in every month proving so!!\r\n\r\nIts ALL about the type of site you build...\r\n\r\nIf you choose to point and click a BANS, or ANY kind of site out of the box - you wont get far.\r\n\r\nIf, on the other hand, you focus on building a resource site, that just so happens to have BANS or some other way of showing a few listings from eBay or Amazon etc, they do extremely well.\r\n\r\nGarbage In = Garbage Results Out.\r\n\r\nQuality In = Quality Results Out\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Andrew –

I feel your pain man… BUT… BANS sites are far from being dead, and many have 4-5 figure checks coming in every month proving so!!

Its ALL about the type of site you build…

If you choose to point and click a BANS, or ANY kind of site out of the box – you wont get far.

If, on the other hand, you focus on building a resource site, that just so happens to have BANS or some other way of showing a few listings from eBay or Amazon etc, they do extremely well.

Garbage In = Garbage Results Out.

Quality In = Quality Results Out

Mark

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]]> By: Andrew http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-15578 Andrew Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:39:46 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-15578 BANS is DEAD. The boat has sailed. Google does not like duplication of content, Ebay (EPN) does not like duplication of content and lets face it, that is all a BANS site is, duplication of content. BANS is worthless without membership into EPN. As of this date if you are trying to apply for membership into EPN for the first time with a BANS site you will get automatically rejected without even a review! Buyer beware, this boat has sailed.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15578','Andrew'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15578','Andrew','BANS is DEAD. The boat has sailed. Google does not like duplication of content, Ebay (EPN) does not like duplication of content and lets face it, that is all a BANS site is, duplication of content. BANS is worthless without membership into EPN. As of this date if you are trying to apply for membership into EPN for the first time with a BANS site you will get automatically rejected without even a review! Buyer beware, this boat has sailed.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> BANS is DEAD. The boat has sailed. Google does not like duplication of content, Ebay (EPN) does not like duplication of content and lets face it, that is all a BANS site is, duplication of content. BANS is worthless without membership into EPN. As of this date if you are trying to apply for membership into EPN for the first time with a BANS site you will get automatically rejected without even a review! Buyer beware, this boat has sailed.
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]]> By: 5 Reasons You Should use WordPress with BANS? | The Niche Store Builder - Succeed with Build a Niche Store http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12484 5 Reasons You Should use WordPress with BANS? | The Niche Store Builder - Succeed with Build a Niche Store Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:29:27 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-12484 [...] from the eBay feed on the web! If you doubt the future of thin affiliate sites, go back and read: Thin Affiliate Websites are Dead There are links to several resources of how search engines view [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12484','5 Reasons You Should use WordPress with BANS? | The Niche Store Builder - Succeed with Build a Niche Store'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12484','5 Reasons You Should use WordPress with BANS? | The Niche Store Builder - Succeed with Build a Niche Store','[...] from the eBay feed on the web! If you doubt the future of thin affiliate sites, go back and read: Thin Affiliate Websites are Dead There are links to several resources of how search engines view [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] from the eBay feed on the web! If you doubt the future of thin affiliate sites, go back and read: Thin Affiliate Websites are Dead There are links to several resources of how search engines view [...]
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]]> By: Elijah http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12482 Elijah Mon, 28 Jul 2008 07:12:05 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-12482 This doesn't surprise me at all. I am not at the point where I can sustain myself AND my fiance by working online, but I've been involved long enough to know that there is a serious change going on in the affiliate marketing world. Original, unique, and resourceful content is king. It is that simple. Whether you are putting together a geographically targeted restaurant-guide website, or blog about the resurgence of vinyl and the culture of vinyl records - you have to provide value to your readers, and regularly. It's not to say that you have to be the first person to write about a particular topic, but make sure that your standpoint on that topic is unique to yourself and helpful to YOUR readers. Out of the box niche sites simply don't work anymore. When BANs or Xsite pro first came out I'm sure things were different - but think of how many people now use these programs, and are looking for an easy, quick dollar... I was one of them. Mark is setting a great example of where the future is going. We need to be utilizing these great tools in an innovative fashion - be creative and think outside of the box. Saturation is the enemy, and Google is doing everything they can to reward the hardworking people, and penalize the scrapers - for the most part : )<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12482','Elijah'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12482','Elijah','This doesn\'t surprise me at all. I am not at the point where I can sustain myself AND my fiance by working online, but I\'ve been involved long enough to know that there is a serious change going on in the affiliate marketing world.\r\n\r\nOriginal, unique, and resourceful content is king. It is that simple. Whether you are putting together a geographically targeted restaurant-guide website, or blog about the resurgence of vinyl and the culture of vinyl records - you have to provide value to your readers, and regularly. It\'s not to say that you have to be the first person to write about a particular topic, but make sure that your standpoint on that topic is unique to yourself and helpful to YOUR readers.\r\n\r\nOut of the box niche sites simply don\'t work anymore. When BANs or Xsite pro first came out I\'m sure things were different - but think of how many people now use these programs, and are looking for an easy, quick dollar... I was one of them.\r\n\r\nMark is setting a great example of where the future is going. We need to be utilizing these great tools in an innovative fashion - be creative and think outside of the box. Saturation is the enemy, and Google is doing everything they can to reward the hardworking people, and penalize the scrapers - for the most part : )'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This doesn’t surprise me at all. I am not at the point where I can sustain myself AND my fiance by working online, but I’ve been involved long enough to know that there is a serious change going on in the affiliate marketing world.

Original, unique, and resourceful content is king. It is that simple. Whether you are putting together a geographically targeted restaurant-guide website, or blog about the resurgence of vinyl and the culture of vinyl records – you have to provide value to your readers, and regularly. It’s not to say that you have to be the first person to write about a particular topic, but make sure that your standpoint on that topic is unique to yourself and helpful to YOUR readers.

Out of the box niche sites simply don’t work anymore. When BANs or Xsite pro first came out I’m sure things were different – but think of how many people now use these programs, and are looking for an easy, quick dollar… I was one of them.

Mark is setting a great example of where the future is going. We need to be utilizing these great tools in an innovative fashion – be creative and think outside of the box. Saturation is the enemy, and Google is doing everything they can to reward the hardworking people, and penalize the scrapers – for the most part : )

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]]> By: Advantages of Combining BANS and Blogging | Niche Store Strategies http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12473 Advantages of Combining BANS and Blogging | Niche Store Strategies Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:42:42 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-12473 [...] discussed the fact that Google doesn’t like thin affiliate sites (see Mark’s “Death of Thin Affiliate Sites” and JT Pratt’s “Why BANS Niche Sites get Banned from Google” for more [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12473','Advantages of Combining BANS and Blogging | Niche Store Strategies'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12473','Advantages of Combining BANS and Blogging | Niche Store Strategies','[...] discussed the fact that Google doesn’t like thin affiliate sites (see Mark’s “Death of Thin Affiliate Sites” and JT Pratt’s “Why BANS Niche Sites get Banned from Google” for more [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] discussed the fact that Google doesn’t like thin affiliate sites (see Mark’s “Death of Thin Affiliate Sites” and JT Pratt’s “Why BANS Niche Sites get Banned from Google” for more [...]
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]]> By: iPhone Auctions Australia http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12472 iPhone Auctions Australia Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:48:19 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-12472 This is a great post - and a needed WAKEUP call for all those BANS people out there who want to keep the cash rolling in. I work hard at keeping my site chock full of info thats beneficial to users. I've also designed the site so people can find what they need. It really is a service, designed to deliver the cheapest prices around. Looking forward to your future posts! Anthony. iPhone Auctions Australia.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12472','iPhone Auctions Australia'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12472','iPhone Auctions Australia','This is a great post - and a needed WAKEUP call for all those BANS people out there who want to keep the cash rolling in.\r\n\r\nI work hard at keeping my site chock full of info thats beneficial to users. I\'ve also designed the site so people can find what they need. It really is a service, designed to deliver the cheapest prices around. \r\n\r\nLooking forward to your future posts!\r\n\r\nAnthony.\r\niPhone Auctions Australia.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This is a great post – and a needed WAKEUP call for all those BANS people out there who want to keep the cash rolling in.

I work hard at keeping my site chock full of info thats beneficial to users. I’ve also designed the site so people can find what they need. It really is a service, designed to deliver the cheapest prices around.

Looking forward to your future posts!

Anthony.
iPhone Auctions Australia.

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]]> By: Duane http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12469 Duane Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:15:50 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-12469 Mark, yeah they'll find a way eventually of removing thin affiliate sites but not any time soon. Google really isn't as clever as people are speculating. I've run many tests that prove wrong so much of the speculation that is going about. Cheers, Duane.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12469','Duane'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12469','Duane','Mark, yeah they\'ll find a way eventually of removing thin affiliate sites but not any time soon. Google really isn\'t as clever as people are speculating. I\'ve run many tests that prove wrong so much of the speculation that is going about.\r\n\r\nCheers,\r\n\r\nDuane.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Mark, yeah they’ll find a way eventually of removing thin affiliate sites but not any time soon. Google really isn’t as clever as people are speculating. I’ve run many tests that prove wrong so much of the speculation that is going about.

Cheers,

Duane.

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]]> By: Mark http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12467 Mark Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:36:59 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-12467 @ Duane - Google is definitely not clearing house through the algorithim... they are doing it manually through some type of review process. In all likelihood, you are probably correct in that they use the tools we employ, to make their jobs easier. Google webmaster tools, adsense, analytics, etc. BANS is FAR from being a dead program... it is still very good and very useful t not only us, but our visitors as well. It is still one of the easiest ways to build an affiliate store onto a website and still makes me quite a bit of change each month. I do however disagree about thin affiliate sites... Google and other engines WILL find a way to eliminate them from the serps at some point. If they are spending time manually removing them now, they will figure out how to do it automatically as well. Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12467','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12467','Mark','@ Duane -\r\n\r\nGoogle is definitely not clearing house through the algorithim... they are doing it manually through some type of review process. \r\n\r\nIn all likelihood, you are probably correct in that they use the tools we employ, to make their jobs easier. Google webmaster tools, adsense, analytics, etc.\r\n\r\nBANS is FAR from being a dead program... it is still very good and very useful t not only us, but our visitors as well. It is still one of the easiest ways to build an affiliate store onto a website and still makes me quite a bit of change each month.\r\n\r\nI do however disagree about thin affiliate sites... Google and other engines WILL find a way to eliminate them from the serps at some point. If they are spending time manually removing them now, they will figure out how to do it automatically as well.\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Duane -

Google is definitely not clearing house through the algorithim… they are doing it manually through some type of review process.

In all likelihood, you are probably correct in that they use the tools we employ, to make their jobs easier. Google webmaster tools, adsense, analytics, etc.

BANS is FAR from being a dead program… it is still very good and very useful t not only us, but our visitors as well. It is still one of the easiest ways to build an affiliate store onto a website and still makes me quite a bit of change each month.

I do however disagree about thin affiliate sites… Google and other engines WILL find a way to eliminate them from the serps at some point. If they are spending time manually removing them now, they will figure out how to do it automatically as well.

Mark

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]]> By: Duane http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm/comment-page-1#comment-12457 Duane Sat, 26 Jul 2008 07:08:22 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/thin-affiliate-websites-are-dead.htm#comment-12457 Well thin affiliate sites are dead only if google has a way of wiping them out with their algorithms. The good news is they don't. Sure they could write an algorithm to wipe out affiliate sites but how does the algorithm know if it's a thin affiliate site or not? Sure they could write an algorithm that could tell some thin affiliate sites but not 100% accurate then they'd have to apply that algorithm to billions of sites. Remember google only has so much processing power and resources. They could easily write an algorithm to detect the css patterns of BANS but that would also wipe out a load of fully sites that aren't thin affiliates which isn't in googles interests. Personally I don't believe it's the end of BANS or thin affiliate sites, sure they have it in their guidelines but how they gonna police it? They can't. If you want to decrease the chances of your BANS site being de-indexed then remove the chance of you site getting a manual review. To do this remove your adsense. To be safe also remove the google analytics code unless you want google knowing everything about your site and sharing the analytics with anyone else it feels like. Cheers, Duane.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('12457','Duane'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('12457','Duane','Well thin affiliate sites are dead only if google has a way of wiping them out with their algorithms. The good news is they don\'t. Sure they could write an algorithm to wipe out affiliate sites but how does the algorithm know if it\'s a thin affiliate site or not? Sure they could write an algorithm that could tell some thin affiliate sites but not 100% accurate then they\'d have to apply that algorithm to billions of sites. Remember google only has so much processing power and resources. They could easily write an algorithm to detect the css patterns of BANS but that would also wipe out a load of fully sites that aren\'t thin affiliates which isn\'t in googles interests.\r\n\r\nPersonally I don\'t believe it\'s the end of BANS or thin affiliate sites, sure they have it in their guidelines but how they gonna police it? They can\'t.\r\n\r\nIf you want to decrease the chances of your BANS site being de-indexed then remove the chance of you site getting a manual review. To do this remove your adsense. To be safe also remove the google analytics code unless you want google knowing everything about your site and sharing the analytics with anyone else it feels like.\r\n\r\nCheers,\r\n\r\nDuane.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Well thin affiliate sites are dead only if google has a way of wiping them out with their algorithms. The good news is they don’t. Sure they could write an algorithm to wipe out affiliate sites but how does the algorithm know if it’s a thin affiliate site or not? Sure they could write an algorithm that could tell some thin affiliate sites but not 100% accurate then they’d have to apply that algorithm to billions of sites. Remember google only has so much processing power and resources. They could easily write an algorithm to detect the css patterns of BANS but that would also wipe out a load of fully sites that aren’t thin affiliates which isn’t in googles interests.

Personally I don’t believe it’s the end of BANS or thin affiliate sites, sure they have it in their guidelines but how they gonna police it? They can’t.

If you want to decrease the chances of your BANS site being de-indexed then remove the chance of you site getting a manual review. To do this remove your adsense. To be safe also remove the google analytics code unless you want google knowing everything about your site and sharing the analytics with anyone else it feels like.

Cheers,

Duane.

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