Thoughts on the EPN…so far…

How’s everyone doing?  After what felt like a pretty long hiatus from BANS and the Niche Store Empire Series (due to my daughter being born), I feel like I’m getting back in the game a bit.  In actuality, it’s only been about a 2 week break!  I’ve put two more stores up in the past week…which is quite a bit for me since I like to take my time and put up quality rather than quantity.  Just trying to play catch up at this point!  Hopefully Mark won’t cut me from the Empire Series for my lack of progress. Cool

In any event, I thought I’d post this while Mark’s been away and see what the rest of you people think about the new EPN.  Good, Bad…ugly?

I haven’t been to the BANS forum in quite a while, so I decided to take a peek over there and there has been some discussion about the EPN and how people feel like “something’s up” with it because no one seems to have gotten any signups (ACRU) since the EPN took over. 

Personally, I thought the EPN would be great and that CJ was missing things that the EPN would pick up and give us credit for…hence, better commissions.  I have had the opposite happen….and that’s discouraging.

I have had ZERO signups since the EPN switch…and what’s worse is that my monthly commission is suffering also.  I started BANS in December 07…my commission for the month of January 08 was $385…February was $199 and March was over $400.

This month, I haven’t cracked $100 yet!  I was under the impression that BANS gradually gets better and it’s more of a “long haul” type of affiliate marketing.  I have checked all of my campID’s to make sure things are in place correctly.  They are, and I am getting clicks…but I have had ZERO sales for about 5 days now, when I was averaging AT LEAST a sale per day leading up to the EPN switch.

One more reason that I feel things aren’t right…my best site, just shot up to #3 on Google (page 1) for my main search term after hovering around page 4 or 5 for two months.  This site has made probably over half of my total commissions in 2008, but looks to be “struggling” to make sale with the EPN even though it’s gotten hundreds of hits this month.

I’m wondering what others are seeing in their EPN stats.  Am I just freaking out for no reason?  Has anyone seen any signups and gotten commission for them?

If you guys would post your feelings about the EPN so far, maybe we can all draw a conclusion about what’s going on…if anything.

Thanks,

Eric

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  • phil said:

    Well, I agree with eric here….although I only have a few sites sites going I was getting a steady trickle albeit a dollar or so a day now not a single cent accrued to EPN. Last week a got a friend to actually signup for Ebay …and have had others I know for a fact that have bought thru Ebay through some of my sites. I promote them quite heavily through friends. Still nothing showing. I am get the clicks showing though under the different campaigns.

    So what’s going on here. Has anyone yet received any income. If so let us know please how it compares to the CJ income.

    Phil

  • Eric (author) said:

    Thanks for posting Phil!

    I’m actually encouraged by your post…simply because I thought it was “just me” and that I was doing something wrong. I’m currently stuck at $49.10 this month through the EPN and haven’t had a registered sale in probably a week now.

    This is just not right…BANS was just starting to take off for me and I was starting to see some of that hard work pay off. Now, I feel like the EPN was a HUGE step backwards.

    I understand that the EPN isn’t even a month old yet, and we may be experiencing some “growing pains”…but I’m really disappointed with it so far.

  • Kelly said:

    About all I can say to your post and the comments is “ditto”. Same thing happening here. I started in Feb 08 and I was doing ok. My sites were starting to get some traction. I switched everythingto EPN on April 5. At the time of the switch I had 4 of 5 sites, but two of these were brand new. On CJ for the month of ‘April I have 292 clicks, 3 leads, 22 sales and commission of 55.00. One the leads converted to and ACRU so that was $25 of the commission.

    Fast forward to today. I have 731 clicks on EPN. A total of 6 sales for a total commission of $3.53. No ACRU’s. Oh, according to EPN I have had 33 bids. With all of the sales and almost all of the bids coming from the first site I converted to EPN.

    This is frustrating. Like Eric I was under the impression we would be looking at gradual growth by month and by month 9 or 10 we should really start to rock. Now, I’m not so sure. My goal was for a $300 dollar month for April but that is not going to come to pass unless ebay makes a massive correction.

    I have checked and rechecked my stores. I did find a couple of problems that I have since corrected. There are some folks who have started reinstalling there stores instead of upgrading them as outlined by the BANS owners. However, I am not inclined to that unless it is absolutely necessary. Maybe if we get any additional input from Mark in the next few days on this subject I might be willing to undertake that task, but only if someone who is more familiar with Bans than I am says that is what we should do.
    Kelly

  • JeffLeft said:

    Looks like we’re all in the same boat, or several of us anyway. I started out in mid march with Bans and after the switch on the 1st of April i started seeing a few sales here and there.. I have 7 stores up now and for April I’m at $67.50 and was getting very excited, BUT it makes me wonder what i’ve missed out on with all the other talk that’s going on.. plus for the last 4 or 5 days NOTHING!!!

    On another note, my girlfriend wanted to buy something from Ebay and had no account. So i had her sign up through one of my sites, i had used ebay tools to make a sign up banner for all my sites so she went through one of those.. She signed up on the 20th and the day after she signed up i checked the report and it did show a CRU for that site.. it was on the 24th when made a purchase and she did a BIN. The next day the report showed the item she bought and the earnings from it, but NO ACRU. I have never had any CRU’s or ACRU’s since starting BANS so i have no idea if there is a delay for those or what? I just know it’s been 3 days since she made the purchase and i am hoping the CRU turns into an ACRU and i hope the bids start going back up again.. this IS getting discouraging! Especially when you hear some folks on the BANS msg boards say they are doing just fine and Ebay says there are no known problems…

  • JeffLeft said:

    Btw, just wanted to toss this out there, I dont’ know if the #’s mean anything to anyone, but here are my #’s as of tonight 4/27/08

    These are from my 7 Sites..

    Campaign Report

    46 impressions, only from 1 site! none of the other 6 show impressions

    3,643 Clicks
    1 CRU
    0 ACRU
    59 Bids
    27 Winning Bids

  • Elijah said:

    This is not what I wanted to hear! I’ve been following all of you, and this blog for 3 months now, eventually purchased bans,wordtracker subscription,and a few other things…

    Now I’m wondering if I made a mistake? Please tell me I haven’t! I think the BANs script is great, and I’m almost complete with my first store, and have 2 more domains/niches ready to get cracking…

    I hope this gets fixed…

  • Rochelle said:

    Here are my stats with EPN:

    Clicks = 3,205
    CRU = 3
    ACRU = 3
    ACRU Earnings = $75
    Bids = 241
    Winning Bids = 97
    Earnings = $197.38

    This is about the same as what I had with CJ. I did notice a slowdown at first but things have come back to where they were with CJ.

    I don’t know if this makes a difference but I had my links cloaked when I first converted to EPN but changed that after about a week on EPN. Now none of my links are cloaked.

    It would be interesting to know if cloaking seems to have anything to do with what some people are experiencing.

    Rochelle

  • otis said:

    I noticed a great decline in $$ since the switch and hope that EPN does not turn out to be a costly mistake for all of us. My ACRUs have went from 4-8 per week to 1 total since the change over. Maybe this problem will be corrected soon..

  • Kelly said:

    Elijah-
    I don’t think you made a mistake at all. The script is good and it does work. Follow this site and the instructions provided by Mark. Rochelle always has good ideas and input as well.

    Keep pushing forward and build out your other two domains. You actually should be in really good shape because you are using the very latest version of Bans (I assume) since you are just now building your stores. Most of the issues that I am aware of are with folks who have upgraded their stores from either v2 or v3. The new stores built with Bans v3epn seem to be ok.

    This is a long term process, and I have to keep reminding myself that also. My goal is to have several BANS stores open by the end of 2008 and by the end of 2009 I would like for them to be producing a high 4 figure or low 5 figure monthly income. That seems far away at the moment, primarily because of this upgrade, but based on my first 60 days with this product it is achievable.

    Rochelle-
    None of my links are cloaked. I think I cloaked my links on one website back in Feb or early March and when we learned that it may cause problems I uncloaked everything.

    I am pushing ahead with building new stores. Maybe there is nothing wrong EPN and I just hit a slow patch, but my instincts tell me otherwise. Most of my stores are pretty new and I’m still working on them trying to add content, etc. My oldest store is probably 90 days old.

    Kelly

  • JeffLeft said:

    So have any of you contacted Ebay about any of this? Should I contact Ebay about not getting the ACRU or how long should I wait? It’s going on the 4th day since my girlfriend made the purchase after signing up…

  • Steve said:

    Maybe there really is a US economic melt down (recession). All we hear about here in Australia. After all, most BANS sites at this time are US based.

    But if that is not the case, then I see it as this.

    The EPN has got some of the finest minds getting it to work right . This will save eBay millions of dollars in lost revenue to companies like CJ, so they have a stake in making it work.

    Secondly, with regard to ACRU’s, how long do you think that a global name like eBay will want to pay a commission for new members. There share holders will need to see that fat being trimmed if those profit margins are going to continue to rise. They don’t need to pay ACRU’s any more as they have the market cornered. Putting it plainly, we need them, they don’t need us. I would not be suprised if next month they changed there TOS and scrapped ACRU’s altogether.

  • Rhonda said:

    Ebay HAS to know that something is wrong. I suppose that’s why they extended the conversion deadline. They must be getting tons of emails about now.

    It seems that they launched the conversion prematurely. It’s very frustrating for those of us buildling businesses around Ebay. We all know that something is wrong. If sales and signups aren’t registering properly, Ebay will be seeing a huge slowdown in affiliate sales about now..and that should be of major concern to them as well.

  • Kelly said:

    Jeff-
    I believe half of the people posting to the main BANS forum have reported this problem. Also, if you look at the ebay EPN forum there is quite an outcry going there as well.

    Also, it is my experience with EPN that things are anywhere from 3 to 7days late in posting. I would wait a couple of more days before contacting ebay, my opinion.

    Steve-
    There is an econonmic slow down here in the US. However, again, my opinion, a slow down in the economy will cause consumers to seek even better deals on goods and services. This fits right into our business plan! They search for “cheap childrens blue jeans” and hopefully they will end up on a BANS website where the owner will get a click and ultimately a sale.

    As for ebay changing things. With the new CEO anything is possible. I personally think $25 is not a lot of money to pay for a new customer. It has to be cheaper than advertising on the major networks. Does that mean they might not change? I don’t know the answer.

    And one more quick note, Mark posted here a couple of weeks ago about diversifying your online business. Many of us, including myself, are new at this. However, I have already begun to think of additional ways to earn income online that do not include being an ebay affiliate.

    Kelly

  • Desty said:

    Up until Saturday I had made $2.10 with 8 sites through EPN. All 8 of those sites were less than 30 days old. Saturday I got a ACRU & commisson, so I’m over $30 this month. Mind you I’m over $50 from CJ this month as well since I switched in mid month.

  • Mark said:

    @ All -

    Looks like a very interesting topic and one that deserves some attention! Like yourselves, I have seen a hit in action since the EPN update… in reality, I have earned just as much in non-EPN sites as I have in the updated sites!

    MOST NOTABLE – I have seen NO ACRU signups either! With one of my busiest sites being about race cars and another dealing with motorcycles, you can imagine that new account signups were in the 1-3 PER DAY range before the EPN changeover.

    On the EPN side – 0 ECRU
    On my unchanged CJ sites – 14 ECRU signups!

    One has to assume that something is wrong…. but what do you do? It WILL fix itself, just not right away obviously. At this point we have a choice of kicking the can and finding another way to make money online, OR… to work on what we CAN CONTROL… adding new sites or making our existing sites better.

    I tend to view things like this as a traffic jam over the course of a 1000 mile trip. 98% of the time, you can haul ass and make great progress… but then you get caught up in traffic and it just seems to ruin the whole trip. In reality… nothing you do can change the traffic jam or make the traffic go smoother, but eventually, it clears up and you are back to top speed!

    How many times have you completely abandoned the highway when you stumble onto a jam up, only to see that it was all cleared up just 1 mile down the road and you lost more time trying to find a way around it, than you would have, if staying the course?

    This will pass… we will come out on top. It is what you do during the downtime that will determine how you succeed!

    Mark

  • JeffLeft said:

    @ Kelly
    well i had already went ahead and emailed Ebay.. they sent me what looked like an auto response.. i had explained about it being several days since the BIN and the CRU had not turned into an ACRU and they didn’t even address my question.. all they did was explain what a CRU and ACRU was and how earnings were made.. soo in other words i got dumped on haha
    maybe it’ll show up soon.. i hope!

  • Sherrin said:

    I started out really excited about EPN because I quickly earned more in the first 2 weeks than I ever had with CJ for the month. I converted my original sites a few days after the update was available and have built a couple of new stores since.

    I was getting 5 to 10 sales a day every day up until last week and they just stopped. In the last 7 days, I’ve had 5 sales over a 2 day period. Impressions and clicks are still showing so I know my campaign IDs are working.

    As for acrus, I joined BANS in November and have never had and acru. My first lead showed up in CJ just before the conversion to EPN, but the lead never converted.

    I’m still building stores, but I need to find some more baskets to fill with eggs while waiting for everything to get straightened out.

  • Eric (author) said:

    Spot on, as usual Mark!

    Not to offend anyone, but I’m glad that these “problems” aren’t just mine! eBay will get it worked out, I’m sure…it’s just frustrating to sit back and say….

    “Man, this internet marketing thing really does work!…I’m reaching my short term goals, making money…and it’s only getting better each month!….”

    …only to be SLAPPED the next month. Oh well….we’ll see what happens in the months to come!

    Eric

  • Alice said:

    Where do you guys get those stats you’re showing as far as the CRUs & ACRUs? I haven’t been able to figure out the epn reporting yet…

    I’m SO disappointed in this I could cry. My sites were really starting to click with regular revenue when I switched on 4/11. Every month had shown a steady increase in sales as my sites matured and I added more BANS sites. In March, I had my biggest month yet (I started in November last year) with just over $300. I was so excited!

    Since making the switch to EPN I have had the same problems as you all. Increasing clicks but no sales. My sites had been bringing in SOMETHING every day at CJ, but now many days go by and I hardly get anything. I’m starting to panic…

  • Rochelle said:

    Alice,

    I’m sure there are several ways to see CRU and ACRU. Here is what I do: log in to your EPN account, click the ‘Reports’ tab, and click the ‘Campaign’ link. Choose your date range, choose your program (very important that you don’t leave this at all programs), then click the ‘Create Report’ button. You should now see all details for each of your sites for the program you chose.

    Rochelle

  • Ronni said:

    I’ve had about the same experience as Alice, thought with lower numbers – things were nicely picking up at CJ until I switched on April 5. Since then my clicks on EPN have continued to increase, but the bottom dropped out of my sales, and NO ACRUs. On top of that, Adsense shut me off on April 1, so despite increasing adsense clicks, there’s zero earnings from there. It’s a real kick in the gut right across the board. :-(

  • Rochelle said:

    Alice,

    This is totally off topic but I just saw that you are in where you are located from your site. My dad lives there, too. Beautiful area!

    Rochelle

  • Jan said:

    I’ve been following this site for quite awhile, and this decission really worried me and also made sense to me.. I to have had a problem with EPN. my sites haven’t made much at all with cj and had hoped that the new EPN was going to help.. I built my first ban site in Feb and since then have built 19 sites. none of them are making any money on CJ, at first when I converted to the new EPN on april 1st the first 2 Weeks were great I made 26.80. which is more then I made for 3 months on CJ. then since about the 15th of the month NOTHING.. not even clicks changed. I’m really getting worried.. When you converted from CJ did you close out CJ for Ebay.. I didn”t and have made 10.00 this month all from Ebay. anyone find out what is going on with EPN Please let us all know…

    Jan

  • Dave said:

    There is definitely something wrong with the eBay stats, last month i made $180- and this month i dont even make $20- with traffic increasing (almost double the amount from last month ) one should think that one would make more sales, but it is the opposite.

    I am going to leave it alone for a view weeks and see what happens, no need to put in the effort of building and promoting BANS sites when you know that you are not getting the money that you deserve

  • James Mann said:

    Congrats on the new addition to the family Eric. I almost congratulated Mark instead of you Eric. :)

    I updated my BANS sites and had absolutely zero errors or problems, although I did wait 15 days before trying it. I thought for sure there would be some major issues.

    I haven’t been able to create any new sites at the moment, now sure what’s happening but I am working on it.

    Unfortunately I keep forgetting about the BANS forum and when I am having problems I end up scratching my head. I better get over there and start looking for answers. Thanks Eric.

  • Eric (author) said:

    My EPN stats don’t show ANY impressions…but a bunch of clicks.

    Is something wrong with that?

  • Sean said:

    I have not seen a change in stats; in fact I have already beaten my revenue, clicks and impressions stats that I posted in November and December when the eBay Affiliate Program was at CJ.

    I also utilize PPC on a few sites. No slow down in spending.

    This April has been my best month so far from the past year. Bring on those Tax Refunds and Stimulus Checks – buy from me :)

    To view your ACRU’s, you will need to download the transaction reports from the eBay Partner Network.

  • Sean said:

    To Eric,

    No impressions will show because your using an RSS Feed. You will only get impression stats if your using the provided banners and links from the eBay Affiliate Network.

    I am back from my hiatus as well. Spent a week in Orlando, week in Texas and another week or so doing some yardwork and fishing since Spring is finally here in the Northern States. It was a nice long vacation – now it’s time to prep for the second half of the year.

  • Russ said:

    Hello everyone my name is Russ.Ive been doing BANS since Oct 07 and I have been following along with mark since the beginning.

    This question is for Ronni,I noticed that in your post above that you said that Adsence shut you off.I was just wondering what you mean by that.I have ten sites now and I have noticed that since I switched over that my Adsence has slowed down considerably.In Jan. it was $17: Feb $25: March $35 and now for April only $14. I just find this weird because in april I added 5 new sites.So I should be getting higher in commissions not less.

  • Ronni said:

    Hi Russ. I didn’t just see a reduction in earnings, I actually saw a steady increase in clickthroughs for 2 sites that I had been working on. I have 9 sites with adsense on them, and up until March 31, I was getting a few cents a day and growing. On April 1st the earnings stopped cold….on ALL my sites. The clicks are still being posted, and still increasing, but ZERO earnings for the whole of April. I have sent three emails to adsense trying to find out why, and what I can do to fix “whatever” is wrong. I got canned responses to the first 2 emails, and nothing since.

    I’m going to take the adsense off all my sites, and wait awhile, then regenerate the ads and put them back to see if it makes a difference.

  • Rhonda said:

    Rochelle,

    Thanks for the explanation of looking at stats on EPN. I had never gotten to that section where you can see bids as well as sales before. That helps.

    -Rhonda

  • JohnnyR said:

    Same eBay, different program. I think eBay doesn’t care, or is ripping us off.

    Last month I made about 220.00. This month I’m stuck at 57.75 with no sales in 8 days, despite my marketing and site building efforts.

    I wish I still had the old BANS install package. I know the switch over has been extended by another month. I believe that I could make money in its Commission Junction phase.

    I have 25 sites. Only 1 site shows impressions. That site has yet to be marketed, so the impressions I’m getting are from myself, as I build the site. The 2 sites with real sales – show no impressions. Very confusing.

    I Love BANS. This is an awesome program. Now just awesome in theory. Still a great tool to build sites with.

  • Mark said:

    @ Russ -

    I run Adsense on about 80% of my sites… In general, the minute I put it onto a new site and start getting clicks, the EPC is highers, maybe even 50% of the cost per click were I to use adwords in the market.

    After 30 days or so, Google recognizes that it is an affiliate site and the quality index goes down… along witht he earnings per click (EPC)

    I have seen a site generate $3.50 PER CLICK through the first 30 days… and slowly work its way down to .08 cents a click in the next 30 days!!

    I am exploring a few alternatives to adsense, but the EPN still seems to be the best alternative! :-)

    Mark

  • Russ said:

    God thanks Mark for the tip good to know.

  • Dave said:

    @JohnnyR

    The tool to build websites is great, but what is the point when eBay is ripping you off.

  • Eric (author) said:

    Also, wasn’t there supposed to be a 5% bonus for sales during the month of April…..to encourage people to migrate over to the EPN?

  • Mark said:

    @ Eric -

    Yes, all sites using the EPN in April are supposed to have a 5% bonus at the end of the month. I am sure it will be a payout added as a bonus after the monthly commissions are finalized.

    One thing nobody has considered about the reporting anomolies is that the CJ system may have been flawed in OUR favor in the past. I know, not likely, but it could have been part of the reasoning behind eBay taking it over themselves.

    Ultimately, I agree that there may be a reporting issue… but I am not going to lose any sleep over it or waste much productive time worrying about it. If its broke, eBay will fix it and address the issue.

    Chuggin along on sitework as if nothing was wrong and let it fix itself… it is 100% out of our control.

    :-)

    Mark

  • Jan said:

    everyone is talking about Impressions and Clicks. Of 19 sites I’ve only had one Sale. Quite alot of Impressions and Clicks. can’t understand whats going on either. This is as of April 19. Haven’t had anything going on since then..

    Impressions 3,056
    clicks: 3,255
    ACRU: 1
    CRU: 1
    Everyone of my sites have Impressions and Clicks, but no sales.
    and does anyone know when we get paid for April

    Jan

  • Kelly said:

    It is my understanding you are paid on or about the 25th of the following month. So for April you would be paid on or about May 25th.
    Kelly

  • JohnnyR said:

    @Dave

    Feature your other affiliates, with eBay ads as an additional source, for product and income.

  • Dave said:

    @JohnnyR

    No i am not going to promote eBay anymore for a while, the sites i have build i leave them for what they are and the domains i have bought to build new once i am going top use to build affiliate stores with.

    I really see no reason anymore to promote eBay not even as a additional source, what is the point if they dont track your sales, i have been reading all the forums and eBay haven’t made any statements about it, that can give you two choices

    One that they really don’t know why the tracking is not working and they are still working on it.

    Two they are starting to flush affiliates and they just dont give a s….

    Either way as affiliate you’re screwed, and i would not advice anyone to start with BANS atm.

  • Larry said:

    Same here. I picked up BANS in January, put up a few sites and was seeing a growing trickle of earnings through March. I switched to EPN on April 2 and have had no earnings since, even though I was beginning to optimize them though the BANS course. Guess it isn’t just me, afterall. Something isn’t right.

  • Larry said:

    OK, since ebay has extended the migration until May 31st and April with EPN has been a bust, can one simply replace the EPN number on the BANS sites with the old CJ numbers for a time or has installing the BANS update made this impossible?

  • Eric (author) said:

    I think this extension is a reaction to numerous affiliate complaints about the EPN’s inaccuracy….although they won’t come out and say it. It also give them another month “buffer” to get things figured out. At least, that’s my interpretation of it.

    Like Mark said, all we can do is continue to work on other projects…we’re pretty much helpless at this point.

    But, one can’t help but be discouraged and hope for a quick turnaround. I wish EPN would just admit that there is something wrong so that our minds can be at ease. ANY money I earn online is a plus, and I don’t want “reimbursment” from EPN’s screwup this month or anything….just be up front w/us and get it figured out! That’s all I ask…

  • JeffLeft said:

    well i emailed them AGAIN about the ACRU i didn’t receive and this time at least got an email that didn’t seem like an auto repsonse.. they told me to give it a few days and then contact them again if i didn’t see the ACRU, it’s already been 6 days… i’m gonna bug them to death about every 2 or 3 days haha

  • Scott said:

    I switched over to EPN on 4-2, I thought everything was going fine until I saw this forum. I had noticed that I didn’t have the kind of sales as I thought I should based on the rise in clicks, but I have been in online commerce for 10 years now and every year I always saw a dramatic drop in sales at tax time, so I just figured that was the deal. Now I see the stats ya’ll have posted and it makes me wonder. I just started with BANS at the first of the year, I had sales right away then they died, now they seem to be picking up again. I have only had one ACRU and I was not credited for that sign up until 30 days afterwards. A friend signed up as I talked him through over the phone so I know how long it took to get credit to show. My clicks have skyrocketed this month (atleast from my previous months). After seeing some of your stats and sales mine seem out of ratio. I would think that the ratio of clicks to sales should average about the same for all of us. For the month of April my stats are as follows

    April 08 EPN
    Clicks – 5831
    CRU – 0
    ACRU – 0
    Bids – 19
    Winning Bids – 10
    Earnings – $17.98
    EPC – .31

    Mar 08 with CJ
    Clicks – 23
    Winning Bids – 3
    CRU – 1
    ACRU – 1
    Earnings – $29.74

  • Eric (author) said:

    I was looking at my reports and noticed in the graph that after about April 17th-ish, things really dropped off….sales and clicks.

    Anyone else notice a similar trend?

  • Jan said:

    I noticed in my reports that around the 15th of April everything seemed to go down hill, no clicks really and Impressions stopped all together. I made earning off one site one time and thats it.

    anyone else notice the same trend.

  • Neil said:

    As someone right on the verge of buying BANS, this kind of information makes me want to hang on to my money!

    BUT I’m seeing contradictory reports and comments (both here and on the ebay forum) – some are saying that their income has plummeted, some are saying it has stayed the same, some say they are doing well.

    So, what is the difference?
    Why would some be affected and not others?
    Is it the BANS version that’s at fault?
    Is it a change in the way the links are structured through EPN?
    Is it being affected by the recent Google changes?
    Are there differences in the way the websites are structured?

    Or is it maybe all of the above????

  • Mark said:

    @ Neil -

    Thanks for the comment and welcome to the NSB site! Overall, between the CJ tracking and EPN tracking, the month of April was actually a great month for earnings on my sites!

    That being said, I have noticed a bit or erratic behavior from the tracking and any trends I have previously followed seemed to go the wayside in April. After reading MANY different boards (eBay, blogs etc) it is not a BANS issue, but an overall eBay EPN issue that is the culprit.

    I just go on with the assumption that it will all be corrected and tracking right in a short time. Its not the first time eBay sales tracking has been skewed and likely not the last!

    Mark

  • Diane Sontag said:

    Hi Mark and everyone and thanks for the welcome. I may be showing my ignorance, but didn’t I learn over at the BANS forum that Commission Junction is no longer an option? I have no idea what CJ even is, mind you, so bear with me as I learn the ropes here.

    I just watched Mark’s video on finding the catagories for the Fine Designer Shoes website. Amazing stuff, Mark, and thanks for putting up the video for us.

    I have some seed money for start up, I have some time, I am looking forward to this.

    Printing off my first set of “Niche Store Worksheets” and getting ready to get my first site up.

  • JeffLeft said:

    i’m going to try something today, it may already be confirmed by someone else but i’m going to give it a shot..

    I had posted that my girlfriend signed up through one of my sites, i think on the 21st of April. On the 22nd I had a CRU for that site. On the 24th she made a BIN and on the 25th the purchase posted on the reports and I did get the earnings for it. It’s been 8 days and the CRU never turned into an ACRU. I emailed Ebay again and they replied again and said they were sorry would forward it to a higher tech…

    I looked over the report again and realized something. She signed up through my BuyPrimitives.com website but i noticed that the cookie came from my TheAdvertisingSignCollector.com website. SOOO, i’m wondering if something may be going on at EPN to where the cookie needed to come from BuyPrimitives to get the ACRU. So i’m going to have her make a small purchase and make sure she gets the cookie from there and just see… Since the CRU cookie suppose to last for 30 days?? Like i said this may have already been tested but there’s alot of folks that are and aren’t getting ACRU’s so it’s worth a shot… we’ll see :)

  • Ronni said:

    It shouldn’t matter which of your sites the cookie came from, it should have converted as soon as that first purchase was completed.

    Just one more example of something very wrong with eBay’s tracking and reporting. We can only hope that they get it sorted out soon. :-(

  • Chris said:

    I started with BANS in January 08. I haven’t had ANY sales on my site with CJ.

    I switched to BANS 3.0 and went with EPN. I got a few ACRUs and a handful of sales.

    umm…yay EPN?

  • Marilla said:

    Blimey – I’m glad I was too busy to make the transfer! I’ve continued to make steadily growing commissions at CJ and will hold off now until the end of May to make the change over. I’ve been away from internet building for a while, feeling guilty that I’d let things slip. Now I’m kinda glad! It’s good to be back reading the blog, Mark.

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