Comments on: Why Does Google Deindex a BANS Website? http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm Learn How to Build and Market Niche Websites Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:32:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Bob http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15477 Bob Tue, 06 Jan 2009 01:29:40 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15477 This is from my Google Webmaster account: "In general, sites that directly profit from traffic (e.g. search engine optimizers, affiliate programs, etc.) may need to provide more evidence of good faith before a site will be reconsidered." Doesn't every site try to profit from traffic, including Google? Could they be more vague? Since when is trying to make a buck "bad faith". If Google followed their own "guidelines" there would be nothing left to index and ecommerce would by dead. Just to be clear - my sites identify the feed is from ebay, I do not participate in any link strategies, I have unique content. The only thing my sites have in common is BANS 3.0. Bob<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15477','Bob'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15477','Bob','This is from my Google Webmaster account:\r\n\r\n\"In general, sites that directly profit from traffic (e.g. search engine optimizers, affiliate programs, etc.) may need to provide more evidence of good faith before a site will be reconsidered.\"\r\n\r\nDoesn\'t every site try to profit from traffic, including Google?\r\n\r\nCould they be more vague? Since when is trying to make a buck \"bad faith\".\r\n\r\nIf Google followed their own \"guidelines\" there would be nothing left to index and ecommerce would by dead.\r\n\r\nJust to be clear - my sites identify the feed is from ebay, I do not participate in any link strategies, I have unique content. The only thing my sites have in common is BANS 3.0.\r\n\r\nBob'); return false;">Quote</a></div> This is from my Google Webmaster account:

“In general, sites that directly profit from traffic (e.g. search engine optimizers, affiliate programs, etc.) may need to provide more evidence of good faith before a site will be reconsidered.”

Doesn’t every site try to profit from traffic, including Google?

Could they be more vague? Since when is trying to make a buck “bad faith”.

If Google followed their own “guidelines” there would be nothing left to index and ecommerce would by dead.

Just to be clear – my sites identify the feed is from ebay, I do not participate in any link strategies, I have unique content. The only thing my sites have in common is BANS 3.0.

Bob

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]]> By: Greg http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15472 Greg Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:56:42 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15472 Has anyone noticed a if there is a difference between sites that show listings on the home page. I just recently had 3 site deindexed and admittedly they were VERY thin, I just hadn't gotten to them yet. What I did notice other than low content, all of the pages showed listings on the home page and most of my sites do not. Just a thought, I would be interested to see the numbers. I thought the sitemap suggestion was good too, that would make sense. Take care.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15472','Greg'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15472','Greg','Has anyone noticed a if there is a difference between sites that show listings on the home page. I just recently had 3 site deindexed and admittedly they were VERY thin, I just hadn\'t gotten to them yet. What I did notice other than low content, all of the pages showed listings on the home page and most of my sites do not. Just a thought, I would be interested to see the numbers. I thought the sitemap suggestion was good too, that would make sense. Take care.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Has anyone noticed a if there is a difference between sites that show listings on the home page. I just recently had 3 site deindexed and admittedly they were VERY thin, I just hadn’t gotten to them yet. What I did notice other than low content, all of the pages showed listings on the home page and most of my sites do not. Just a thought, I would be interested to see the numbers. I thought the sitemap suggestion was good too, that would make sense. Take care.
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]]> By: Build Niche Store Tutorials http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15463 Build Niche Store Tutorials Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:55:11 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15463 I had some of my sites de-indexed due to the google updates. Especially the ones from the article directories... I've been experimenting with a strategy on some new bans sites and some of the bans sites that got de-indexed.. The main factor I have found in all of the experiments I have performed are all down to fresh content... and book marking and linking your content in the right way back to your store.. Happy new year to you guys.. Steve<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15463','Build Niche Store Tutorials'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15463','Build Niche Store Tutorials','I had some of my sites de-indexed due to the google updates. Especially the ones from the article directories... I\'ve been experimenting with a strategy on some new bans sites and some of the bans sites that got de-indexed.. \r\n\r\nThe main factor I have found in all of the experiments I have performed are all down to fresh content... and book marking and linking your content in the right way back to your store.. \r\n\r\nHappy new year to you guys.. \r\n\r\nSteve'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I had some of my sites de-indexed due to the google updates. Especially the ones from the article directories… I’ve been experimenting with a strategy on some new bans sites and some of the bans sites that got de-indexed..

The main factor I have found in all of the experiments I have performed are all down to fresh content… and book marking and linking your content in the right way back to your store..

Happy new year to you guys..

Steve

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]]> By: Thick vs. Thin Affiliate Websites | http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15460 Thick vs. Thin Affiliate Websites | Tue, 30 Dec 2008 02:43:51 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15460 [...] Build A Niche Store Blog and TheNicheStoreBuilder have talked about why Google is de-indexing BANS sites and it’s worth a read.  If you are [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15460','Thick vs. Thin Affiliate Websites |'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15460','Thick vs. Thin Affiliate Websites |','[...] Build A Niche Store Blog and TheNicheStoreBuilder have talked about why Google is de-indexing BANS sites and it’s worth a read.  If you are [...]'); return false;">Quote</a></div> [...] Build A Niche Store Blog and TheNicheStoreBuilder have talked about why Google is de-indexing BANS sites and it’s worth a read.  If you are [...]
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]]> By: Mike http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15452 Mike Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:13:25 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15452 My site was delisted back in August and just a few days after finally getting my page rank boosted to 2. I thought I was on the right track and pretty happy about it when they hammered me.After several requests for re-inclusion and no responses I'm just going to give up on Google focus my SEO on Yahoo. What's frustrating to me though is seeing static sites that have no content, haven't been updated in ages, no relevant back links etc..., still on the first or second page for my main search terms. Happy Holidays! Mike<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15452','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15452','Mike','My site was delisted back in August and just a few days after finally getting my page rank boosted to 2. I thought I was on the right track and pretty happy about it when they hammered me.After several requests for re-inclusion and no responses I\'m just going to give up on Google focus my SEO on Yahoo.\r\n\r\n What\'s frustrating to me though is seeing static sites that have no content, haven\'t been updated in ages, no relevant back links etc...,\r\nstill on the first or second page for my main search terms.\r\n\r\nHappy Holidays!\r\nMike'); return false;">Quote</a></div> My site was delisted back in August and just a few days after finally getting my page rank boosted to 2. I thought I was on the right track and pretty happy about it when they hammered me.After several requests for re-inclusion and no responses I’m just going to give up on Google focus my SEO on Yahoo.

What’s frustrating to me though is seeing static sites that have no content, haven’t been updated in ages, no relevant back links etc…,
still on the first or second page for my main search terms.

Happy Holidays!
Mike

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]]> By: Mark http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15379 Mark Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:25:04 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15379 @ Nick - Nothing major, but quite a bit more than I could list in a comment section. There is quite a bit of errant code between the index.php and the frontcontrol.php (alot of repetitive code) that simply puts an easy to spot footprint on the sites. Text strings like "View More Items", "Bids", etc just need to be removed or changed. ANYTHING you can do to make your site different than the out of the box pages, is worth the effort. Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15379','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15379','Mark','@ Nick - \r\n\r\nNothing major, but quite a bit more than I could list in a comment section.\r\n\r\nThere is quite a bit of errant code between the index.php and the frontcontrol.php (alot of repetitive code) that simply puts an easy to spot footprint on the sites.\r\n\r\nText strings like \"View More Items\", \"Bids\", etc just need to be removed or changed.\r\n\r\nANYTHING you can do to make your site different than the out of the box pages, is worth the effort.\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Nick –

Nothing major, but quite a bit more than I could list in a comment section.

There is quite a bit of errant code between the index.php and the frontcontrol.php (alot of repetitive code) that simply puts an easy to spot footprint on the sites.

Text strings like “View More Items”, “Bids”, etc just need to be removed or changed.

ANYTHING you can do to make your site different than the out of the box pages, is worth the effort.

Mark

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]]> By: nick http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15378 nick Fri, 12 Dec 2008 19:15:26 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15378 I have been using phpbay for a while now and like it a lot but decided to get BANS just yesterday (and before reading your post). You mention that your index page is "highly modified" - what kinds of things did you tweak? I'm not asking you to give away any trade secrets, but just something that may help people like me to make a BANS site that doesn't get BANned by Google. Thanks!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15378','nick'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15378','nick','I have been using phpbay for a while now and like it a lot but decided to get BANS just yesterday (and before reading your post). You mention that your index page is \"highly modified\" - what kinds of things did you tweak? I\'m not asking you to give away any trade secrets, but just something that may help people like me to make a BANS site that doesn\'t get BANned by Google.\r\nThanks!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I have been using phpbay for a while now and like it a lot but decided to get BANS just yesterday (and before reading your post). You mention that your index page is “highly modified” – what kinds of things did you tweak? I’m not asking you to give away any trade secrets, but just something that may help people like me to make a BANS site that doesn’t get BANned by Google.
Thanks!
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]]> By: Mark http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15362 Mark Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:56:53 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15362 @ Mike - True... Amazon IS a 24 hour cookie, but the cart has a 30 day expiration. SO... if you send a user over today, they have 24 hours to make the purchase... OR add it to a cart. After they add the item to a cart - YOU OWN the referral to that specific cart item for 30 days, or they empty the cart buy completing the purchase or deleting it. Even if 2 days later, they find another referral link from some other affiliate and add something else to the cart, as long as they kept your referred item in the cart, you will get credit for the referral. At least thats how I understand it to work... So... just to clarify: Amazon has a 24 hour cookie - Yes! If item is added to cart - it is good for 30 days, or until the cart item is purchased or removed. Mark<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15362','Mark'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15362','Mark','@ Mike - \r\n\r\nTrue... Amazon IS a 24 hour cookie, but the cart has a 30 day expiration. SO... if you send a user over today, they have 24 hours to make the purchase... OR add it to a cart.\r\n\r\nAfter they add the item to a cart - YOU OWN the referral to that specific cart item for 30 days, or they empty the cart buy completing the purchase or deleting it.\r\n\r\nEven if 2 days later, they find another referral link from some other affiliate and add something else to the cart, as long as they kept your referred item in the cart, you will get credit for the referral.\r\n\r\nAt least thats how I understand it to work...\r\n\r\nSo... just to clarify:\r\n\r\nAmazon has a 24 hour cookie - Yes!\r\n\r\nIf item is added to cart - it is good for 30 days, or until the cart item is purchased or removed.\r\n\r\nMark'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @ Mike –

True… Amazon IS a 24 hour cookie, but the cart has a 30 day expiration. SO… if you send a user over today, they have 24 hours to make the purchase… OR add it to a cart.

After they add the item to a cart – YOU OWN the referral to that specific cart item for 30 days, or they empty the cart buy completing the purchase or deleting it.

Even if 2 days later, they find another referral link from some other affiliate and add something else to the cart, as long as they kept your referred item in the cart, you will get credit for the referral.

At least thats how I understand it to work…

So… just to clarify:

Amazon has a 24 hour cookie – Yes!

If item is added to cart – it is good for 30 days, or until the cart item is purchased or removed.

Mark

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]]> By: Mike - BANS Today http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15361 Mike - BANS Today Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:43:17 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15361 @Bill As I understand it Amazon only has a 24 hr cookie so you are very limited compared to eBay.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15361','Mike - BANS Today'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15361','Mike - BANS Today','@Bill\r\n\r\nAs I understand it Amazon only has a 24 hr cookie so you are very limited compared to eBay.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @Bill

As I understand it Amazon only has a 24 hr cookie so you are very limited compared to eBay.

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]]> By: Bill http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15360 Bill Wed, 10 Dec 2008 19:15:48 +0000 http://www.thenichestorebuilder.com/why-does-google-deindex-a-bans-website.htm#comment-15360 Count me in as another reformed BANS'er....too much headache compared to Wordpress and phpBay. I am done with BANS.....I still like EPN...but I am going to branch out as well and start including other affiliate programs and give Amazon a try. Amazon has a MUCH MUCH deeper inventory than Ebay in my opinion...at least they do in my niches.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('15360','Bill'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('15360','Bill','Count me in as another reformed BANS\'er....too much headache compared to Wordpress and phpBay.\r\n\r\nI am done with BANS.....I still like EPN...but I am going to branch out as well and start including other affiliate programs and give Amazon a try.\r\n\r\nAmazon has a MUCH MUCH deeper inventory than Ebay in my opinion...at least they do in my niches.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Count me in as another reformed BANS’er….too much headache compared to WordPress and phpBay.

I am done with BANS…..I still like EPN…but I am going to branch out as well and start including other affiliate programs and give Amazon a try.

Amazon has a MUCH MUCH deeper inventory than Ebay in my opinion…at least they do in my niches.

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